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Old June 2nd 05, 03:10 AM
George Patterson
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RST Engineering wrote:

The EAA web page gives instructions on gasahol up to 5% alcohol and how to
safely burn it.


Which page? The EAA page I read states "DO NOT FLY" (caps in original) with over
1% alky. In fact, you posted a copy of that page.

George Patterson
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and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
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Old June 2nd 05, 03:38 AM
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wrote

So what your saying is that if you have ethanol rich gasoline, just add
water and shake and what your left with is gasoline without ethanol.

Sounds like a good way to purify gasoline.


Except for the gas that now contains .7% water. I know, burn the gas, and
it will leave the water!

No? Oh well, it was an idea. Not a very good one, but an idea,
nevertheless. ;-)
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Old June 2nd 05, 03:40 AM
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"Sport Pilot" writes:

One thing about mogas, it is best to get the mogas that airports have
.They typically get car gas that does not have the car gas additives.


Total BS, most FBO's that sell mo gas are either small mom and pop
operations that do not have a very large tank to ask the local
distributer to eliminate the aditive package, or they only offer it
because they are also using it for their ground equipment. Besides the
additives are only detergents which would only help to get rid of
carbon and lead deposits. The alcohol is added at the refienery not
the distributer.



I wonder about that... I worked in the fuel business eons ago. The
additives WERE injected at the marketing terminal, i.e. when/where
the trucks were loaded. One reason was that same gas was often sold
by another company also on the same pipeline; and the additives were
part of the 'brand differentiation' the marketing driods love...




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Old June 2nd 05, 04:09 AM
George Patterson
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David Lesher wrote:

Does anyone else recall reading Ice Station Zebra, and how to get
the sugar out of gasoline...? [No, watching Ernest Borgnine in the
movie version won't cut it...]


Yep -- loved MacLean's books.

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.
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Old June 2nd 05, 05:14 AM
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"DL" == David Lesher writes:
DL A host is a host from coast to
DL & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX
DL Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
DL is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

Gee, this was funny years ago with the old style addresses, but now???
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Old June 2nd 05, 07:09 AM
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David Lesher wrote in news:d7lrj4$ba2$1
@reader1.panix.com:

"Sport Pilot" writes:

One thing about mogas, it is best to get the mogas that airports have
.They typically get car gas that does not have the car gas additives.


Total BS, most FBO's that sell mo gas are either small mom and pop
operations that do not have a very large tank to ask the local
distributer to eliminate the aditive package, or they only offer it
because they are also using it for their ground equipment. Besides the
additives are only detergents which would only help to get rid of
carbon and lead deposits. The alcohol is added at the refienery not
the distributer.



I wonder about that... I worked in the fuel business eons ago. The
additives WERE injected at the marketing terminal, i.e. when/where
the trucks were loaded. One reason was that same gas was often sold
by another company also on the same pipeline; and the additives were
part of the 'brand differentiation' the marketing driods love...


This FAQ is geared towards automotive gasoline but it was quite
an eye opener when I got done reading it.

http://extract.cr.usgs.gov/Extractor...t/40063288.zip

It explains many of the reasons why gas prices vary from place
to place in seeming illogical fashion. Once you know the reasons
why, it's not so confusing. Although that doesn't help the fact
that some are still having to give their first born to gas up.

Brian
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Old June 2nd 05, 12:31 PM
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In rec.aviation.owning Morgans wrote:
: Except for the gas that now contains .7% water. I know, burn the gas, and
: it will leave the water!

.... and probably lower octane than it is rated at. One of the benefits of
adding alcohol to gasoline (for the refinery) is that it typically raises the octane
rating a few points. 100% ethanol has an octane rating of 100 or so. They can blend
crappier mixes of gasoline with ethanol to make the 87 A.K.I rating.

-Cory

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