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Old March 15th 06, 12:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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That is required now in the DC area to fly to/from the DC3
airports, you need a security clearance from DHS. We need
more "big brother" for "security" so let's require a call to
the local police before anyone leaves their house or place
of business for any movement in a public place or near a
public road or airport.
The required info MUST include names, DOB, SSN, DL #, car
tag, description of clothes, type of vehicle if used[ to
include tag number, color, mileage and how much gas is in
the tank]. All passengers must be identified my name, SSN
and age with a description].

This will make the world safe, kidnapping children will be
more difficult, bank robbers will be easily caught. If they
also cross-reference medical records, car accident victims
can get better treatment since the first responders can have
the medical history and blood types for everybody. DNA
samples will allow positive ID for fatal accidents and also
allow immediate ID for criminals.

And of course, all IPC would become required every six
months, at your expense. They would have to be certified
and reported to the FAA. The FAA is months behind issuing
medical certificates and such, let's increase the work-load,
after all, who can be against SAFETY.

Be Franklin was quoted as saying, "We have given you a
republic, if you can keep it." and "Those who would
sacrifice freedom for security will have neither."


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"WRE" (remove nospam) wrote in
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| It really amazes me that in this day and age you can file
an IFR flight plan
| and give any name you desire....and who knows if you have
an instrument
| rating.
|
| How hard would it be for the FAA to require a Certificate
# and cross
| reference it with the name given when filing a flight
plan?
|
| JMHO
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:sVhRf.117141$QW2.87164@dukeread08...
| You file a flight plan by telephone, or perhaps a
computer
| on the Internet. Nobody really knows what name is on
the
| flight plan and if that person is legal and who is
claimed.
| Only after an accident or other investigation is the
actual
| identity of the people on the airplane established.
|
| If your passengers know your name and they want to use
your
| name and certificate, there is nothing but their ethics
to
| stop them. If you are a pilot riding as a passenger and
| want to be sure, make a call to FSS/ATC before the
flight
| departs and state that you are NOT the PIC and you did
not
| file the flight plan. ATC might not have the full
details
| of the flight plan, such as the name of the pilot. But
if
| you care, make it a FACT.
|
|
| --
| James H. Macklin
| ATP,CFI,A&P
|
| --
| The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
| But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
| some support
| http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
| See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and
duties.
|
|
| "Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
|
online.com...
| | Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
| |
| | "Dr. Coulman owned the plane, filed the flight plan
and
| made the decision
| | as to who would fly the aircraft," Sullivan wrote to
the
| NTSB.
| |
| | How could this be in question? If a flight plan was
| filed, it has a pilot's
| | name.
| |
| | - Andrew
| |
|
|
|
|


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Old March 15th 06, 01:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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European and UK rules may be different, in the USA, the name
on an IFR flight plan as PIC must be a current IFR rated
pilot.


"Must be" and "is" are not necessarily the same; there is no cross-check at
the time the flight plan is filed.



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Old March 15th 06, 01:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Happy Dog" wrote in message
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"Matt Barrow"
I suspect a lot of pilots have filed and flown IFR flight plans with
little more than some IR training. This may be another such case.

Evidence? Reasoning?

What part of the word "suspect" don't you comprehend?


Your question begging definition skills precede you. What do you mean by
"a lot"?


Several.

Or "some IR training"?


Anywhere from a few hours up to "many, but never passed the final tests".

We had a doctor in town who practiced for several years before someone found
out he'd had nothing more than basic medical training.

Aside from that, my evidence is NTSB reports I've read and that about one
driver in ten on the roads do not have valid drivers licenses; which is
more likely to get caught, driver or pilot.


Driver. But flying approaches in IMC with "little more than some IR
training" would likely result in lots of accidents. And I don't see any
evidence of this.


Dig deeper.

(Departure or enroute IMC with an assured VMC destination would be less
problematic. Pray that a diversion isn't needed.)


Yes...but not the point.



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Old March 15th 06, 01:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:14:59 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
wrote:


"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:0SARf.117287$QW2.428@dukeread08...
European and UK rules may be different, in the USA, the name
on an IFR flight plan as PIC must be a current IFR rated
pilot.


"Must be" and "is" are not necessarily the same; there is no cross-check at
the time the flight plan is filed.


Even if there were a cross-check that a pilot holds an instrument
rating, there's no practical way to cross-check whether the pilot is
instrument current.

RK Henry
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Old March 15th 06, 02:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"RK Henry" wrote in message
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:14:59 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
wrote:


"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:0SARf.117287$QW2.428@dukeread08...
European and UK rules may be different, in the USA, the name
on an IFR flight plan as PIC must be a current IFR rated
pilot.


"Must be" and "is" are not necessarily the same; there is no cross-check
at
the time the flight plan is filed.


Even if there were a cross-check that a pilot holds an instrument
rating, there's no practical way to cross-check whether the pilot is
instrument current.

Quite, and that's quite prevalent in accident reports.


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Old March 15th 06, 02:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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No check is made unless there is an incident or accident.
But to be legal...


"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
...
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
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| news:0SARf.117287$QW2.428@dukeread08...
| European and UK rules may be different, in the USA, the
name
| on an IFR flight plan as PIC must be a current IFR rated
| pilot.
|
|
| "Must be" and "is" are not necessarily the same; there is
no cross-check at
| the time the flight plan is filed.
|
|
|


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Old March 15th 06, 02:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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No check is made unless there is an incident or accident.
But to be legal...


Yeah...that stops MOST people...



"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
...
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:0SARf.117287$QW2.428@dukeread08...
| European and UK rules may be different, in the USA, the
name
| on an IFR flight plan as PIC must be a current IFR rated
| pilot.
|
|
| "Must be" and "is" are not necessarily the same; there is
no cross-check at
| the time the flight plan is filed.
|
|
|




  #38  
Old March 15th 06, 02:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Unless you are a terrorist or smuggler or airplane thief.



"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
...
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:c0LRf.117432$QW2.63109@dukeread08...
| No check is made unless there is an incident or
accident.
| But to be legal...
|
| Yeah...that stops MOST people...
|
|
|
| "Matt Barrow" wrote in
message
| ...
| |
| | "Jim Macklin"
wrote
| in message
| | news:0SARf.117287$QW2.428@dukeread08...
| | European and UK rules may be different, in the USA,
the
| name
| | on an IFR flight plan as PIC must be a current IFR
rated
| | pilot.
| |
| |
| | "Must be" and "is" are not necessarily the same; there
is
| no cross-check at
| | the time the flight plan is filed.
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|


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Old March 15th 06, 03:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jim Macklin" wrote in
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Snipola

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Old March 15th 06, 04:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"WRE" (remove nospam) wrote in message
...
It really amazes me that in this day and age you can file an IFR flight
plan and give any name you desire....and who knows if you have an
instrument rating.

How hard would it be for the FAA to require a Certificate # and cross
reference it with the name given when filing a flight plan?


You must nave really gotten cranked up when you heard about the airline
pilot that had no pilot certificate of any kind,



 




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