Ideal watch?

No, I'm just saying my ears are less sensitive than other people I know.

Mike Rapoport wrote:

Do you think that a jet climbs at the same rate as your Cherokee?

Mike
MU-2


"TTA Cherokee Driver" wrote in message
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Mike Rapoport wrote:


How do you think your ears would feel if they only started

preasurization

upon reaching 8000'?



Judging from my experience, I would be fine. But I have noticed other
people are more sensitive. I took my brother for a flight in the
Cherokee and when we leveled off at 5500 I told him we were at cruising
altitude, and he said "good, my ears will probalby stop bugging me now".
Taht surprised me, as I have never felt any ear discomfort climbing or
descending in an unpressurized GA airplane.

Fair enough. I suspect that if you were in a Learjet climbing over
6,000fpm, that even your ears might complain a little.

Mike
MU-2


"TTA Cherokee Driver" wrote in message
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No, I'm just saying my ears are less sensitive than other people I know.

Mike Rapoport wrote:

Do you think that a jet climbs at the same rate as your Cherokee?

Mike
MU-2


"TTA Cherokee Driver" wrote in message
...


Mike Rapoport wrote:


How do you think your ears would feel if they only started

preasurization

upon reaching 8000'?



Judging from my experience, I would be fine. But I have noticed other
people are more sensitive. I took my brother for a flight in the
Cherokee and when we leveled off at 5500 I told him we were at cruising
altitude, and he said "good, my ears will probalby stop bugging me now".
Taht surprised me, as I have never felt any ear discomfort climbing or
descending in an unpressurized GA airplane.

Fair enough. I suspect that if you were in a Learjet climbing over
6,000fpm, that even your ears might complain a little.

Yeah, but it would be worth the pain! :-)

How fast does your MU-2 climb, Mike?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

I have the Citizen Wingman VI. I like it very much. If you set it to the
digital time mode, you can activate the back light by pressing any button.

I love the 31 time zones, and dial in the right one when traveling. It beats
trying to reset the watch constantly. I use the UTC zone when flying.

I must say, the really cute E6B bezel is useless, and totally impossible to
see in the air. After a few years of walking into walls, there are lots of
missing paint spots on the bezel.

I cannot hear the alarm in a quiet room, let alone a noisy plane.

Hey! If you have an extra $14,000, you can get a nice Breitling Emergency
with a built in ELT!!

Jerry Malin,
Warrior N82045


When flying IFR, my Westbend Kitchen Timer ($12 at Wal*mart) velcrowed to my
yoke is great. Those BIG numbers are easy to see.
"Chris" wrote in message
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Look at the Citizen Navitach watches. They do almost everything you
need (no vibrating) and look nicer than your average $30 timex. They
usually go for less then $100 on eBay. If you can find one of the
Citizen "Wingman" watches, they are the same as the Navitach but add
an E6B to the bezel (but I think the Wingman looks a bit clunky).


Chris

wrote in message
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On 19-Dec-2003, "Mike Rapoport" wrote:

Preasurization is set to a cabin altitude and a cabin
climb rate. After takeoff the outflow is restricted to maintain the
desired altitude and climb rate.


Taking into account that I have never piloted a pressurized aircraft, to
me
it seems like the most demanding task in managing pressurization has to be
to make sure that the cabin pressure matches the outside pressure upon
landing. If, for example, you landed at Denver with sea level cabin
pressure, you would have to sit inside the airplane for quite a few
minutes
while the cabin depressurized at a comfortable rate before you could open
the door. However, most articles I've read about cabin pressure
management
don't discuss this aspect. Am I missing something?

No, you have it right. Cabin pressure is usually adjusted when beginning
descent (within 300 feet of destination altitude).

"Jerald Malin" wrote in message
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I have the Citizen Wingman VI. I like it very much. If you set it to the
digital time mode, you can activate the back light by pressing any button.

I love the 31 time zones, and dial in the right one when traveling. It
beats
trying to reset the watch constantly. I use the UTC zone when flying.

I must say, the really cute E6B bezel is useless, and totally impossible
to
see in the air. After a few years of walking into walls, there are lots of
missing paint spots on the bezel.

I cannot hear the alarm in a quiet room, let alone a noisy plane.



Hey! If you have an extra $14,000, you can get a nice Breitling Emergency
with a built in ELT!!

More like $4,000 :-)



Jerry Malin,
Warrior N82045


When flying IFR, my Westbend Kitchen Timer ($12 at Wal*mart) velcrowed to
my
yoke is great. Those BIG numbers are easy to see.
"Chris" wrote in message
...
Look at the Citizen Navitach watches. They do almost everything you
need (no vibrating) and look nicer than your average $30 timex. They
usually go for less then $100 on eBay. If you can find one of the
Citizen "Wingman" watches, they are the same as the Navitach but add
an E6B to the bezel (but I think the Wingman looks a bit clunky).


Chris

Hey! If you have an extra $14,000, you can get a nice Breitling
Emergency
with a built in ELT!!

More like $4,000 :-)

Hey -- this is aviation. What's ten grand? :-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Hey -- this is aviation. What's ten grand? :-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


The initial price of admission?

Don

"Donald M. Ross" wrote in message
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:anREb.595498$HS4.4381870@attbi_s01...

Hey -- this is aviation. What's ten grand? :-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


The initial price of admission?


Initiation fee?

There is a huge variation depending on weight and altitude and temperature.
I have seen as high as 4000fpm but I suspect that there was some wave lift
present. I have also seen a little as 900fpm after takeoff from Minden on a
100F day. This may not seem too bad until you consider that Vy is 155kts
which is a pretty high TAS at 6000' and 90F+. The climb angle was pretty
pathetic. Actually it was a little scary. That was the last time I took
off at gross weight from a high altitude airport on a scorching day.
Typical climbout is about 2000fpm at heavy weights. After about 14,000'
climb rate slows and is about 1,000fpm at FL220 and 400fpm at FL290.

Mike
MU-2


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Fair enough. I suspect that if you were in a Learjet climbing over
6,000fpm, that even your ears might complain a little.

Yeah, but it would be worth the pain! :-)

How fast does your MU-2 climb, Mike?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"