Real-life flight planning

Where are you located, Tom?

Tom Fleischman wrote:

DeRango's friday fish fry is nothing to sneeze at either, except I can
never seem to get in the door the place is so crowded on Fridays every
time I try.

My favorite O&H Kringle is the apple.

My favorite O&H Kringle is the apple.

I live near NYC, but visit my wife's family in South Milwaukee often.

Geez, Tom, I lost track of this thread!

You know, you have a "name-sake" at the Racine airport? He's a school
teacher, and we used to rent planes from him. (A Skyhawk, in particular,
N172TM) He has three or four aircraft.

In fact, the first few times I saw you post, I thought you were him!

(Pecan or cherry-cheese are fabulous kringles, too)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:xlQRb.44403$U%5.236284@attbi_s03...
Yeah, we kept the WACs on board when using the Trip Ticks, just in case.

My "tick" is, I really don't like WACs, especially if I wind
up flying VFR under a layer.

Didn't need 'em, though. We never went off the maps, even when diverting
around icing (on our way back from Sun N Fun last year) -- those maps are
pretty wide. You musta diverted pretty far!

I would say the opposite. You must not have diverted far at all,
if you stayed on the triptiks. My CFI went off the triptik I made for
him (IFR low-alt's, which are more like WACs in scale) with a modest
diversion around afternoon heating thunderstorms near coastal
GA. I've had the same experience with Aeroplanner triptik
sectionals -- just a modest diversion to land short of our planned
fuel stop and a bit south of the route took us off the chart, and
a modest ATC rerouting when we took off again under IFR kept us off.

But yes, to avoid wx systems we sometimes do replan our flights in
a significant way. Fly from Baltimore to St. Louis via W. Va
instead of via OH and that kind of thing.

If I recall correctly, coming back from Sun n Fun you guys weren't
too happy about the wx -- I seem to recall you thought you were
pushing it, wound up in lower ceilings/vis than you like and picking
up icing and Mary wasn't sure she wanted to do the trip again?
Excuse me if I'm remembering incorrectly. My only point being
sometimes rerouting with a broader scale is helpful with
that sort of thing (and of course sometimes not).

Cheers,
Sydney

If I recall correctly, coming back from Sun n Fun you guys weren't
too happy about the wx -- I seem to recall you thought you were
pushing it, wound up in lower ceilings/vis than you like and picking
up icing and Mary wasn't sure she wanted to do the trip again?

Boy, that's for sure. The weather was a royal pain coming back from
Florida. (On the way down, we saw nary a cloud.)

But re-routing wouldn't have helped -- unless I could have re-routed into
spring. :-) The storms in our path straddled the width of the Florida
pan-handle, and diverting wasn't an option. (We would have had to divert
well off the east cost of the U.S, or out into the Gulf of Mexico, to get
around them!) We eventually picked our way through, after spending an
afternoon waiting them out in some utterly forgettable town.

Then, up north (after spending the night in Birmingham, AL) where we hit the
icing, we were on the east side of a North/South oriented front that was
marching east. We kept diverting east as we headed north, to stay in the
clear, until we finally got around the top of it.

Again, re-routing on a grand scale wouldn't have helped -- our only other
option would have been to park the plane and wait for the front to pass. If
the weather had continued down-hill, we were prepared to do just that --
but, as you may recall, we broke into the clear on the back-side of the
front just as Mary was diverting to land.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

In article NoOUb.105918$U%5.546571@attbi_s03, Jay Honeck
wrote:

But re-routing wouldn't have helped -- unless I could have re-routed into
spring. :-) The storms in our path straddled the width of the Florida
pan-handle, and diverting wasn't an option. (We would have had to divert
well off the east cost of the U.S, or out into the Gulf of Mexico, to get
around them!) We eventually picked our way through, after spending an
afternoon waiting them out in some utterly forgettable town.
Then, up north (after spending the night in Birmingham, AL) where we hit the
icing, we were on the east side of a North/South oriented front that was
marching east. We kept diverting east as we headed north, to stay in the
clear, until we finally got around the top of it.

As I recall, if you left after Thursday, the weather covered from the
Mississippi to the Atlantic, from Texas to Maine.

I left Thursday morning and had 15 to 50 mph tailwinds between 1000 and
4000 MSL. The farther north I got, the stronger the winds blew ahead of
the Low pressure system moving northeast out of the Southern Plains.
Lakeland to Columbus Ohio in a 65 hp 7AC in 10 hours and four fuel
stops. Ground speeds from 90 to 125 mph.