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  #31  
Old January 30th 04, 03:04 PM
Tom Sixkiller
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Jay Honeck wrote:

Providing the means and method with which to break the law isn't

illegal?

In general not. Otherwise every gun store owner and manufactuer

would
already be locked up. Depending on the local laws, it may or may not
be legal for me to carry locksmithing tools with me. In some cases

it's
only illegal for me to carry them if I intend to use them to break the

law.

Good point. The law really does seem to be schizophrenic about this

issue.

Not at all. Anybody can make and sell anything that has a legal use. It is

using
the item to break the law that's illegal, and that includes conspiring to

do so.
Nothing schizoid about it.


(Maybe I'm missing the context here) Really? Try building your own .45 Auto
just to keep around the house or shoot at the range..



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Old January 30th 04, 05:45 PM
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what about it? you live in cali where they're funny about that? cause ive
built several of my own guns including a .45, .308 FAL, AR-15 etc.(next
will be a AK) but as long as you do it within the boundaries of state and
federal laws its perfectly legal. -Nick (also a FFL holder)

(Maybe I'm missing the context here) Really? Try building your own .45

Auto
just to keep around the house or shoot at the range..





  #33  
Old January 30th 04, 05:58 PM
Jens Krueger
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Jay Honeck wrote:

Several sites were suggested and explored, but the only "legal" (meaning
"pay per song") music site I found was www.iTunes.com , which has turned out
to be a marvelous experience -- thanks to whomever suggested it!


I did, glad you like it. Watch for some cool ads during superbowl. Apple
just started a big promotion with Pepsi.

When you find a song you want, just click on "Buy this song" and it
downloads in MP3 format.


Actually it is not MP3, it is a format called AAC. Which is an extension
to the new MP4-Standard to include the so called
digital-rights-management. It is based on an open standard, like mp3.
Which makes it IMO more desirable than WMA, which is
Microsoft-controlled format.

Here's the best part of the whole thing: At the end, when you've got your
80 minutes (or so) of music downloaded, you burn the CD with a SINGLE CLICK.


With the same single-click you can also import your own CDs into iTunes
and mix some of your own stuff with songs that you bought.

Our plane will be ROCKING on our next flight!


Cool!

Cheers,
Jens

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  #34  
Old January 30th 04, 07:08 PM
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I doubt anyone you know built their own firearm. At least what the BATF
classifies as a firearm. In the case of the 1911 Style .45 it is the frame.
In the case of the AR-15 it is the lower receiver. those are the parts with
the serial number on them.

I've assembled several guns but I've never manufactured one. The paperwork
to do so would be ridicules.

Gig Giacona
www.peoamerica.net/N601WR

"BigNick73" wrote in message
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what about it? you live in cali where they're funny about that? cause ive
built several of my own guns including a .45, .308 FAL, AR-15 etc.(next
will be a AK) but as long as you do it within the boundaries of state and
federal laws its perfectly legal. -Nick (also a FFL holder)

(Maybe I'm missing the context here) Really? Try building your own .45

Auto
just to keep around the house or shoot at the range..







  #35  
Old January 30th 04, 07:38 PM
Peter Duniho
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"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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jay told us how seamingless and well it went with itunes. and I said that
(almost) everything from Apple works that way.


I have found (almost) everything from Microsoft to work that way too. But
we were talking about iTunes and music downloads in general here. I fail to
see how this conversation in any way naturally leads to the conclusion "buy
a Mac".

Pete


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Old January 30th 04, 08:18 PM
BigNick73
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well i was refering to assembly and not manufactoring
but u can make your own firearms
With certain exceptions a firearm may be made by a nonlicensee provided it
is not for sale and the maker is not prohibited from possessing firearms.
[18 U. S. C. 922( o), (r), (v), and 923, 27 CFR 178.39, 178.40, 178.41 and
179.105]


and yes i do know people that have done this and also assembled silencers
LEGALY. I'm not saying it isnt a pain in the ass and that alot of the laws
are iffy (like on FALs and AKs you must have X number of american made parts
and what types of accesories they have on em etc etc.). but you can do it.
and from what i hear the paperwork isnt that bad its the taxes ($200 for
silencers and $200 just to transfer a Class III/Full auto) and the 3 month
wait to get a reply. anyway this is too ot i think.

"Gig Giacona" wrote in message
...
I doubt anyone you know built their own firearm. At least what the BATF
classifies as a firearm. In the case of the 1911 Style .45 it is the

frame.
In the case of the AR-15 it is the lower receiver. those are the parts

with
the serial number on them.

I've assembled several guns but I've never manufactured one. The paperwork
to do so would be ridicules.

Gig Giacona
www.peoamerica.net/N601WR

"BigNick73" wrote in message
.. .
what about it? you live in cali where they're funny about that? cause

ive
built several of my own guns including a .45, .308 FAL, AR-15 etc.(next
will be a AK) but as long as you do it within the boundaries of state

and
federal laws its perfectly legal. -Nick (also a FFL holder)

(Maybe I'm missing the context here) Really? Try building your own .45

Auto
just to keep around the house or shoot at the range..









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Old January 30th 04, 08:40 PM
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:hoeSb.51691$U%5.285585@attbi_s03...
Are you sure about the MP3 format? Back when I looked into this,
they were delivering files in some not-MP3 format. I prefer MP3
because my CD player plays MP3 format CDs.


As someone else said, the songs actually come across in something called
".AAC" format.


This ACC format is actually MPEG 4, aka "MP4". The iTunes software
can understand and store files in ACC, AIFF, MP3, and WAV formats.
You can select this in the Importing Preferences. According to the
MPEG organization, ACC provides the better representation of all the
formats.

Note also that you can make a CD containing MP3 files using iTunes
(MP3 format CD). Just change the Preferences for burning a CD in the
iTunes software.

These formats are known as lossy compression methods. (Except for
AIFF, which is raw data, and I don't know about WAV.) They save space
by throwing away information that either can be inferred, isn't
necessary, or can be represented more compactly. There is some
necessary, but small, loss in fidelity of the sound. However, this
loss is small enough that unless you have top of the line equipment,
very good hearing, and a trained ear, you won't miss it.

In the usual use where there is normal amplifiers, speakers or
headphones, background noise, etc. then even a trained ear can't
really hear the difference.

Whatever it is, it rips straight to a CD without a problem, and apparently
plays in the iPod player (which I don't own).


Yup, we've got our whole CD collection on my wife's 15 GByte iPod with
space left over. YMMV. Of course we filled up the remaining space
with songs we'd purchased... grin Figure a full CD is 750 MBytes of
data. Typically perhaps 500-600 MBytes is used on a music CD. The
ACC compressed results for a few albums is below:

Aqualung: 40 MBytes
Andrea Bocelli's Romanza: 65.1 MBytes
Be Good Tanya's Blue Horse: 50.1 MBytes
Zap Mama's Seven: 69 MBytes
Bach's Das Wohltemperierte Klavier, Teil I: BWV 846 - BWV 857 : 48.5
MBytes
Bob Dylan's MTV Unplugged Live 1996: 73.6 MBytes

As you see it varies some, but not with the type of music, but more
with how much the CD is filled. I think I counted 60 MBytes/CD disk
for my estimate and it came out pretty well. As usual, there's some
space on the iPod drive taken up by overhead and housekeeping data
storage, but a surprising part of the space is available.

I suppose there must be a way to convert it to MP3 format? For me this is
a non-issue, but I can see why it would be critical from your end...


Yes, using iTunes, you can export files to MP3. Just drag the file
from the iTunes window to the desktop on the Mac. Might be the same
thing on Windows too, I dunno about that.

The iTunes/iPod combination is a great one in my view. It packages
something we all like in an easy to carry and easy to manage system.
As far as it's use in a plane, as a pilot I don't want the music for
me for the same reason I have some problems with drivers using cell
phones. But my passenger likes it. We've got a headset with an
external input that my wife uses. She sets the volume so she can hear
me and the music. Works for us.

We've also got the iTrip from Griffin, a little short-range FM
transmitter that plugs into the top of the iPod. There's a few quirks
in it's usage - the volume has to be set right for example - by it's
great for car use of the iPod.

-Malcolm Teas
"I play a software geek in real life"
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Old January 30th 04, 08:58 PM
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Thanks for the primer, Malcolm. This is neat stuff, and it's good to hear
from a "power user"...
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

-Malcolm Teas
"I play a software geek in real life"



  #39  
Old January 30th 04, 08:59 PM
Jay Honeck
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With the same single-click you can also import your own CDs into iTunes
and mix some of your own stuff with songs that you bought.


Really? Now that is neat -- I wouldn't have even thought of trying that.

Thanks for the info -- twice! :-)
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old January 30th 04, 09:09 PM
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Malcolm Teas ) wrote:

As far as it's use in a plane, as a pilot I don't want the music for
me for the same reason I have some problems with drivers using cell
phones.


Malcom, thanks for the information in the rest of your post, but I wanted
to comment on the above.

IMO and experience, listening to music is nowhere near the same level of
distraction as driving while talking on a cell phone. Talking to ATC
while flying; now that equivalent to driving while talking on a cell
phone.

In my case, I listen to jazz while flying longer XC flights but never when
on approach (due to POH restrictions). Over the years I have conditioned
myself to use certain types of music to enhance my concentration. This
started when I was in college when I would tune in a local jazz station
while studying. Thus, I believe that I actually feel sharper and more
alert with some background music playing over the headsets while flying.

I just wanted to point out my reasons for an opposing viewpoint. Of
course, all bets are off if I had to listen to "Aqualung" while flying.

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Peter












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