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  #31  
Old May 19th 04, 07:27 AM
tony roberts
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Easy, Tony. I don't think anyone was attempting to make humor out of
Scott's untimely and tragic death.


Hi Jim
I want to agree with you.
But then i am reading:

A pilot's second fatality... it's amazing what modern medicine can do
now..
die once.. resurrected.. to die again...

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Ya can't keep a good boy down.

General Francisco Franco is still dead.

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But Elvis isn't...not really.

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Men In Black:

"Elvis is not dead...He just went home."

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Another blasted tailwheel pilot that can't fly. No doubt he thinks all
the
flight instructors are incompetent.

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Great, now he gets to vote in Chicago....

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And so on . . . while we can only imagine what his wife is going through
right now.


But maybe on reflection I shouldn't have said anything Jim. This is a
sensitive subject for me having just gone through a very close family
death myself.
And through the rec. aviation groups I have known some of the people who
made these comments for several years. And I believe that they would not
usually make light of a tragedy such as this.
This particular thread appears to have spun off into directions that
perhaps everyone wishes they could retract.

Thanks for your post. I really do appreciate it.

Tony



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Old May 19th 04, 07:59 AM
Jay Beckman
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"tony roberts" wrote in message
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Easy, Tony. I don't think anyone was attempting to make humor out of
Scott's untimely and tragic death.


Hi Jim
I want to agree with you.
But then i am reading:


Tony,

Please accept my most sincere apology...

My Men In Black quote was meant to follow on to the Elvis reference and was
a "reflexive" response.

I meant no disrespect toward anyone.

Sincerely,

Jay Beckman
Student Pilot - KCHD
20.0 Hrs (.6 Solo Today!!)
Nowhere to go but up!


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Old May 19th 04, 08:05 AM
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"tony roberts" wrote in message
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Easy, Tony. I don't think anyone was attempting to make humor out of
Scott's untimely and tragic death.


Hi Jim
I want to agree with you.
But then i am reading:


Upon further review.....

I have to agree, there is much that goes on here, in bad taste. Take BWB,
or BOb. Please! g

I want to believe that they are poking fun at the other (in my eyes, idiot),
and not making light of the tragedy as it relates to Scott.

Still, people have their own ways of dealing with pain. Jokes are one way.
Some would joke about their own death, if they could.

I keep a vast kill file. Sometimes, a person only ****es me off one time.
They don't bother me anymore, after that. Once in a while, I plull some out
for a second chance. They usually go back in pretty quick. It might be
time to start your own kill file.

Again sorry for your loss.
--
Jim in NC


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Old May 19th 04, 08:32 AM
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Hey he left behind a bunch of friends also.


"tony roberts" wrote in message
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Did he really land his Cessna 170, after a mid-air collision, with his
engine no longer attached to the airframe -- by turning on the

*auto-pilot*?

I read the accident reports and my understanding was that he was on
autopilot, reading a chart, when the midair happened.

Scott Devlin left behind a wife and two children aged 1 year and 3 years,
Perhaps those that find this a source for their feeble attempts at
humour may reflect on that.

Tony

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Old May 19th 04, 10:32 AM
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On Tue, 18 May 2004 13:02:15 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

Did he really land his Cessna 170, after a mid-air collision, with his
engine no longer attached to the airframe -- by turning on the *auto-pilot*?
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No, he was on auto-pilot when the collision took place, according to
the news story. He evidently did a pretty good job of getting it down,
at least until he tangled with the power lines.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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Old May 19th 04, 11:43 AM
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I've never seen a Cessna 170 with an autopilot.


"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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On Tue, 18 May 2004 13:02:15 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

Did he really land his Cessna 170, after a mid-air collision, with his
engine no longer attached to the airframe -- by turning on the

*auto-pilot*?
--


No, he was on auto-pilot when the collision took place, according to
the news story. He evidently did a pretty good job of getting it down,
at least until he tangled with the power lines.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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Old May 19th 04, 02:08 PM
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C J Campbell wrote:

The way I read it is that he had turned on his autopilot and was looking at
a map when the mid-air happened.


He may not even have had one. A lot of pilots I know use "on autopilot" to refer to a
period in which they don't need to provide any control inputs. He may simply have
meant that he was flying along nice and relaxed and then WHAM.

George Patterson
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Old May 19th 04, 03:35 PM
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"NW_PILOT" wrote in message
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Hey he left behind a bunch of friends also.


The other pilot involved also has a bunch of friends. He and his wife have a
few planes that they fly regularly out of Vashon Island. Now he has to spend
the rest of his life wondering if he could have done something different.

Maybe those who think that he was an idiot ought to stop and think about
that the next time they have to look at chart, grab a sandwich, or whatever.

It appears he was hit from behind and above. The Centurion was, for some
reason, making large altitude changes, both climbing and descending.


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Old May 20th 04, 02:39 AM
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"C J Campbell" wrote in
:

snip
It seems unfair to say that this is the pilot's second fatal accident
when his plane suffered a power failure and he was not even at the
controls when it crashed. The NTSB report of that crash says:

snip

All's fair during love, war, and sweeps week?
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Old May 20th 04, 02:48 AM
Judah
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It's a news story. In sweeps week. With a quote from (as I recall a
teenaged) unnamed "eyewitness" on the ground.

How reliable do you think it is?


"kage" wrote in :

I've never seen a Cessna 170 with an autopilot.


"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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On Tue, 18 May 2004 13:02:15 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

Did he really land his Cessna 170, after a mid-air collision, with his
engine no longer attached to the airframe -- by turning on the
*auto-pilot*? --


No, he was on auto-pilot when the collision took place, according to
the news story. He evidently did a pretty good job of getting it down,
at least until he tangled with the power lines.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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The Warbird's Forum
www.warbirdforum.com
The Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com
Viva Bush! blog www.vivabush.org




 




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