Can I fly the NY VFR corridor w/o a XPNDR?

Simple question. Can I fly the NY VFR corridor in a
transponderless aircraft that meets the exception
requirements of 91.215 (no electrical system)? It looks
like the answer is yes, provided I stay low enough (below
500' as I turn the Lady). Any new TFR or other restrictions
on this? Any good intros on doing it (freq's. suggested
reporting points, etc.) Thanks.

M

Mike wrote:

Simple question. Can I fly the NY VFR corridor in a
transponderless aircraft that meets the exception
requirements of 91.215 (no electrical system)? It looks
like the answer is yes, provided I stay low enough (below
500' as I turn the Lady). Any new TFR or other restrictions
on this? Any good intros on doing it (freq's. suggested
reporting points, etc.) Thanks.

Do not get below 500' in that area -- with the amount of boat traffic in the harbor,
you will find it impossible to maintain the required clearance. In addition, the 500'
ASL level will contain quite a few helicopters, so I would not venture below 600' in
any aircraft that has less than excellent visibility. Why do you think you need to
get that low?

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote:

Do not get below 500' in that area -- with the amount of boat traffic in the harbor,
you will find it impossible to maintain the required clearance. In addition, the 500'
ASL level will contain quite a few helicopters, so I would not venture below 600' in
any aircraft that has less than excellent visibility. Why do you think you need to
get that low?

It's a bit diffficult to see, but my sectional appears to
say that the Class B is 70/+05 over the Lady. I know I'll
need an NY Terminal Chart, but I'm in the planning stages.
Is the CBAS higher than 500' there?

Mike wrote:

It's a bit diffficult to see, but my sectional appears to
say that the Class B is 70/+05 over the Lady. I know I'll
need an NY Terminal Chart, but I'm in the planning stages.
Is the CBAS higher than 500' there?

The floor of the class B is 1,100' over the lady. There's a point of land on the
Jersey side that's the closest point of the riverbank to the statue. The floor dips
to 500' at that point. Since you need to be at least 1,000' AGL if you get over land,
the 500' floor is sort of a moot point. The TAC will make it clear to you, but -- if
you come in over the Narrows bridge at 1,200 to 1,500', drop below 1,100' and make a
beeline for the lady, shoot the gap between the Jersey shore and the lady and Ellis
Island, staying between 600' and 1,100', you'll be fine. Stray too much to the left
of that beeline, you run the risk of getting into the 500' floor area.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote:

Is the CBAS higher than 500' there?

The floor of the class B is 1,100' over the lady.

Thanks. I managed to find a current NY TAC and can see the
route a lot better now. I suppose it's time to set up the
GPS, make some notes on reporting points and go flyin'

I suppose it's time to set up the
GPS

For a trip down the Hudson? No. Get the local chart, mark it with whatever will stand out, and keep your eyes out the window. Watch for aluminum and enjoy the view!

Put a sticky on the GPS.

Jose
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On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 16:07:45 -0500, Mike wrote:

I suppose it's time to set up the
GPS,
You need a GPS to follow a river for 3 miles with one of the biggest
cities in the world always to one side?! Yikes.

make some notes on reporting points and go flyin'
This sounds more like it to me....

z

Mike wrote:

Thanks. I managed to find a current NY TAC and can see the
route a lot better now.

Good. Now turn that TAC over and check out the helicopter routes chart on the other
side. It's larger scale and has sketches of some of the landmarks in that area (like
the air intakes for the tunnel).

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

Simple question. Can I fly the NY VFR corridor in a
transponderless aircraft that meets the exception
requirements of 91.215 (no electrical system)? It looks
like the answer is yes, provided I stay low enough (below
500' as I turn the Lady). Any new TFR or other restrictions
on this? Any good intros on doing it (freq's. suggested
reporting points, etc.) Thanks.



I'm not so sure about transponder-less a/c inside the 30 nm ring. I would
check on that.

But, if so, the frequency is 123.05 on the Hudson River. Self-announce
position, stay right (as a highway).
www.Rosspilot.com

You cannot enter 30nm ring without a transponder. However, I think you can
get a special permission from FSDO to enter or leave without transponder
for good reasons. I dont think they will give you a permission because you
want to fly into that corridor without a transponder.

Toks Desalu
Dyin' to soar
PP-ASEL


"Rosspilot" wrote in message
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Simple question. Can I fly the NY VFR corridor in a
transponderless aircraft that meets the exception
requirements of 91.215 (no electrical system)? It looks
like the answer is yes, provided I stay low enough (below
500' as I turn the Lady). Any new TFR or other restrictions
on this? Any good intros on doing it (freq's. suggested
reporting points, etc.) Thanks.



I'm not so sure about transponder-less a/c inside the 30 nm ring. I would
check on that.

But, if so, the frequency is 123.05 on the Hudson River. Self-announce
position, stay right (as a highway).
www.Rosspilot.com