The Aviator

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Larry Dighera wrote:

Given the fact that Hughes died in 1976*, and AIDS wasn't discovered
until 1986**, that is an unlikely cause of his death.

The first *known and proven* death associated with AIDs occurred in the
mid-50s
in England. They did not know it was AIDs at the time.

And there are all the ones who died of it and it wasn't proven, it wasn't
even known.

What the hell do we call today, what they called "consumption" generations
ago? I think it's on my grandmothers death certificate.
--
Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

Cub Driver wrote:

Ah, come on! Hughes died at 70 or 71. How can we talk about a
self-inflicted death for a man in his seventies?

Where did "self-inflicted" come from?

George Patterson
The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.

"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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Ah, come on! Hughes died at 70 or 71. How can we talk about a
self-inflicted death for a man in his seventies? With his diet, his
mental instability, and his drug habit, that he lived so long is a
testament to human endurance. How many of his contemporaries outlived
him? Even for a boy born to a rich family, I'll bet he lived longer
than his life expectancy for one born in 1905 or thereabouts. (I don't
have a birth date for him, but he became CEO of Hughes Tool in 1924 at
the age of 19.)

In any event, I enjoyed the movie, and I also recommend George
Marrett's biography of him, which confines itself to the aviator part:
www.warbirdforum.com/hughes.htm


Also, "Hughes" by Richard Hack, derived largely from Hughes' private
diaries.
"The Private Diary of Howard Hughes. Hack. At long last - the definitive
biography of the legendary Howard Hughes based on newly uncovered personal
letters, sealed court testimony, recently declassified FBI files and
never-before-revealed autopsy findings with eight pages of rare and
never-before-seen photographs. A remarkable book that lifts the veil of
secrecy that has surrounded one of the world's most enigmatic and mysterious
men. 500 pgs., hdbd."
http://www.historicaviation.com/hist...nfo.po?ID=4322


Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

Matt Barrow wrote:

What the hell do we call today, what they called "consumption" generations
ago?

We call it tuberculosis.

George Patterson
The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.

Saw the movie last night. Anybody here have a recommendation for a good
biography (not a sensationalist rag) that covers his whole life? I see
several on Amazon and am looking for recommendations.
Thanks and happy new year

--
Carl
WA1KPD
Visit My Boatanchor Collection at
http://home.comcast.net/~chnord/wa1kpd.html

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Larry Dighera wrote:

Given the fact that Hughes died in 1976*, and AIDS wasn't discovered
until 1986**, that is an unlikely cause of his death.

The first *known and proven* death associated with AIDs occurred in the
mid-50s
in England. They did not know it was AIDs at the time.

And there are all the ones who died of it and it wasn't proven, it wasn't
even known.

What the hell do we call today, what they called "consumption" generations
ago? I think it's on my grandmothers death certificate.
--
Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 16:08:35 GMT, Larry Dighera
wrote:


Hughes inherited millions of dollars and turned them into billions of
dollars. He was a very, very successful businessman. The movie catches
the wild nature of some of his bets. What it doesn't catch (and what
Ms Taylor chooses to gloss over) is that many of them were hugely
successful.

Very true. I greatly admire Hughes as a businessman, yet this is the aspect
of his life that Hollywood seems to find most distasteful, as if the only
people entitled to be rich are movie stars.

C J Campbell wrote:

"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 16:08:35 GMT, Larry Dighera
wrote:


Hughes inherited millions of dollars and turned them into billions of
dollars. He was a very, very successful businessman. The movie catches
the wild nature of some of his bets. What it doesn't catch (and what
Ms Taylor chooses to gloss over) is that many of them were hugely
successful.

Very true. I greatly admire Hughes as a businessman, yet this is the aspect
of his life that Hollywood seems to find most distasteful, as if the only
people entitled to be rich are movie stars.

If you look at the companies Hughes owned, the successful ones were those that
he hired others to run. Those that he ran tended to do poorly. He did have the
knack for picking companies that could be winners.



--
Jim

carry on

"Jim Herring" wrote in message
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If you look at the companies Hughes owned, the successful ones were those
that
he hired others to run. Those that he ran tended to do poorly. He did have
the
knack for picking companies that could be winners.

One of the worst mistakes a businessman at that level can make is to try to
run things himself. You have to know when to fire yourself.

The movie glides tactfully over his bisexuality, now proven,
though Charles Higham’s hastily written and mostly hostile
biography of Hughes ...

Does no one see a possible reason for skepticism within this sentence?
How can anything be "proven" by a "hastily written and mostly hostile"
source?

On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 14:52:27 -0800, "C J Campbell"
wrote:

Very true. I greatly admire Hughes as a businessman, yet this is the aspect
of his life that Hollywood seems to find most distasteful, as if the only
people entitled to be rich are movie stars.

Now that you mention it....

Hughes goes to visit Helpburn's family, where he is told that they
don't discuss money. Hughes mumbles: "That's because you've always had
it." He seems to be the gauche nouveau riche. But of course Hughes was
born rich, too, probably richer than Helpburn's family.

I suppose though that there's a difference between Dallas? rich and
Cos Cob? rich.