glassholes

At 05:00 17 February 2005, Greybeard wrote:
On 16 Feb 2005 18:04:40 -0800, 'Jack' wrote:

I just want to know your name so if ever introduced
to you I won't
stick out my hand. I'd just want to turn and walk off,
so please, give
me that opportunity.

My name is Richard, and the only chance you would ever
have had of
being introduced to me would have been at the Beloit,
Wisconsin
airport. That chance is gone and will never be available.
I'd give
you my last name, but there are five in the state with
the same first
and last name. You might make sure you get the right
one.
(Hint: if they're at the airport, it ain't me.) You'll
just have to
avoid everyone named Richard.

*snip*

Quick google search and found the following info (thanks
to Duncan Idahoe):

'Greybeard / rabue / Richard B / Lennie the Lurker
is in reality (or what
passes for it at his house)

Richard A. Buege
236 Robert St.
Burlington, WI 53105-2255
tel. 262-763-2237

This is 100 percent dead nuts on target.

Easy to find. He claims to own a Schweizer 1-26 sailplane.
So a friend
went to a search engine that finds all registered owners
of aircraft
(FAA makes this public, has to), and started searching
all the aircraft
of that type, looking for Wisconsin addresses. I think
his is the third
or so hit for WI. Listed as Richard Buege, Burlington.
That's SE
Wisconsin, his known hangout. Checking phone books
for his name and
town, returns middle initial A which fits for rabue.
Burlington is close
to the nature center (Bong) where he lectures on pond
scum (no kiddin',
I wouldn't make this up) and flies model gliders. And
there was a very early post to a model glider group
which started as
follows, apparently before he got his Rude Bone installed:

From: Richard Buege
To:
Subject: Your ongoing discussion
Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 14:22:44 -0500
Message-ID:

Good morning Gentlemen, and let me introduce myself.
Being 56 years old
and a 47 year model builder, I have been following
your discussion with
much interest. I am one of the Naturalist's volunteers
at Bong
recreation area, here in Wisconsin, and am in frequent
contact with the
FF bunch that flies there. I have not been flying anything
actively for
several years now, but still take the CO2 Pietenpol
for an outing
occasionally.

Note the techheadnet.com ISP, which rabue has used
in the past, along
with techheadnet2.com

More details. Must be about 58 now. Had a heart condition
(figures)
which kept him from getting a medical for powered flight
but took
gliding lessons.
Apparently scared himself ****less on his first solo
and hasn't gone
back.
Takes sour grapes attitude to gliding, gliders, and
glider pilots
(surprise).
Now he wants to cut up his airplane because he doesn't
like it. (Has 6
people leasing it from him). Daughter born with birth
defects, wife died
of Parkinson's. Hates all his nearby relatives, he
says because they're
German.
Said he was moving to way northern Wisconsin where
his Irish relatives
are much nicer. But hasn't moved yet. They probably
don't want to see
him either.
Spent two years in the Navy as an enlisted man, giving
officers
attitude--
or so he says. I think they would have dealt with him
quickly and
appropriately if he had the mouth he claims he had.
Doesn't like anybody
who is or was in the military. Union through and through.
Apparently UAW
but I don't know where, possibly American Motors which
was near there,
possibly another unknown supplier, possibly several.

This just in: possible former employer J.I. Case.
'I'm going to answer that with the example I'm most
familiar, UAW Local
180, of which I was a member for thirty years... Certainly,
we
have one of the best insurance coverages anywhere,
but it was not
a 'gimmee'. It was a cooperative effort between the
company and the
locals of the Case Council. '

More digging... UAW 180 represents workers at the J.I.
Case plant and
headquarters in Racine, Wisconsin. Right area again.'

On 17 Feb 2005 19:42:04 GMT, John Doe
wrote:

Big ****ing deal, asshole. I've never hid it, but I'm not low enough
to post personal information on others on the net, a level of
mindlessness that you seem to revel in. And yes, 30 years with
J.I.Case co., and probably took my retirement and left at the right
time, as it seems that the new owner, new holland, an off shore firm
with no mind and or consience is about to finish off, after 150 years
of an honorable tradition. So much for scumbags across the pond, none
of them are to be trusted for anything now or ever.

By the way, asshole, I don't fly model gliders anymore, or any flying
model, that went in the ******** where it belongs. You won't find me
listed as the glider owner, because it's been three years since I took
my loss and got rid of the goddam thing. Torching it probably would
have been better, nobody would have to look at after someone with a
CFI rating stuck a tip wheel through the wing.

Some dozen or so flights in 1-26, which means your reading and
reasoning power are the same, somewhere below zero, e6b, both old and
new, sent to scrap aluminum with pop cans, most books burned, few sent
back to person that gave them to me, plotter broken and used for shim
stock. Log book destroyed, I don't ****ing want to know, second
phone line added, soaring people do not have unlisted number, and I
don't answer the other. All photos taken at field destroyed or
erased from disks. Delcom radio destroyed, NiCads used in portable
power pack for Yamaha DGX-500 keyboard. Yaesu, abandoned at field,
don't know or care.

RC model WIP, in attic, will never be finished, engine siezed, too
bad. RC radio, in attic, has been for three years, NIB, RIP. Nicads
will leak someday, and I'm going to let them. Aircraft only channel,
useless.

March 9 will be the last time any of the soaring people will be able
to contact me, even by email. I will lose nothing. There was never
anything there to lose. Cutoff will be complete from the aviation
people, and I will suffer no loss.

John Doe wrote:

What a cheap shot. If you don't like Lennies
posts you can always ignore them.

You must be real proud of yourself for
digging up his information, especially
the part about his wife and daughter.

How low can you be?

You could have stopped at just giving his
real name without all the other details.

Especially brave of you to do while also
hiding behind an alias.

PW5 Flyer

John Doe wrote:

You must be new! We've known Lenniebeard's "true, secret identity" on
this ng for years (didn't Al figure it out first?). Just ignore him and
he'll go back to rec.metalwork sooner.
BTW, you should change your name or people will start to think you were
an abandoned infant or an itinerant "found down".
;-)

Shawn

On 17 Feb 2005 13:05:19 -0800, "PW5 Flyer" wrote:




How low can you be?

He's actually still above average for this group. Cheap shots are
stock in trade here. However, it's all things that I've posted, I'm
not hiding anything, unlike asshole al and many others. miniscule
intellects gather together in gaggles.

I actually only know two that occasionaly post something here, but the
March 9 cutoff of all contact with any soaring isn't going to bother
anyone.

BTW, the intelligence level of pond scum is higher than the RAS
average.

Hi Shawn,
No I'm not new (lurker of 3 years, occasional poster
(under my real name) of 2), I was merely bringing our
obviously new friend Jack up to speed on the Lennie
issue ;-) Although I have to admit the pond scum
bit was new to me ;-)

PW5Flyer - Lennie has talked enough about his family
problems (Lennie, you have my sympathy, but I still
don't like you) on r.a.s. before, it's not exactly
a state secret. I am merely re posting freely avaliable
information.

And as for your dislike of aliases, I take it PW5Flyer
is your real name then? Did your parents not like
you or something? ;-)

And fyi, I don't dislike you or lennie because of your
choice of ship (1-26 or PW5, not the ships I'd choose
but each to their own), I dislike you for your attitude
and your wallowing in self pity.

John Doe
(Lost in action somewhere north of Da Nang)

At 22:00 17 February 2005, Shawn wrote:
John Doe wrote:

You must be new! We've known Lenniebeard's 'true,
secret identity' on
this ng for years (didn't Al figure it out first?).
Just ignore him and
he'll go back to rec.metalwork sooner.
BTW, you should change your name or people will start
to think you were
an abandoned infant or an itinerant 'found down'.
;-)

Shawn

Hi "PW5 Flyer", whatever your real name may be,

On 17 Feb 2005 13:05:19 -0800, "PW5 Flyer" wrote:


Especially brave of you to do while also
hiding behind an alias.

----------------
PW5 Flyer
----------------

Hear hear.


How about stopping all that bull**** and returning to the topic of
this group?

I'm sure about one thing: A a tone like in this thread is unknown to
any glider field where people are able to look into each others' eyes
while discussing.



Bye
Andreas

Well,

It's a sad day when any of us loses someone or something we love. It
happens to all of us. None are immune. I'm sorry for your loss, Lennie
the Lurker, but please leave us out of your greif. Take out your
bitterness on those that actually frustrated you to begin with. This
isn't the forum for that.

This will be my last post on this particular thread... indeed, my last
look at it. I'm guilty of helping to keep it going and I apologise to
all for that. If some think I'm a Glasshole, I guess they're entitled
to that opinion. I will (already do) have many friends that fly
sailplanes - glass, metal, wood, and whatever... They include Ventus
IIs, ASW-27Bs, PW-5s, Russias, 1-26es, Ka-6es, etc. Call me what you
like while hiding behind your alias. I do take exception to your
calling any of my friends names. You don't know anything about any of
us. We'll have fun flying, and drink beer afterwards and I'll drag out
the guitar and sing until they make me quit, (don't usually take too
long!) Then we'll swap stories (lies) and so on. I just don't find
anything there to be negative about.

It's all good, and a couple of you missed it. I hope you'll pardon my
waxing philosophic, but I'm a little tooted and my son is just home
this afternoon from the Persian Gulf, and I'm in a rare mood, indeed!
If you can't smile for me, then smile for him. We're going for a
sailplane ride Sunday. He's going to join a club and begin flying soon.


Jack Womack
Pik-20B (AZ)

John Doe wrote:
Hi Shawn,
No I'm not new (lurker of 3 years, occasional poster
(under my real name) of 2), I was merely bringing our
obviously new friend Jack up to speed on the Lennie
issue ;-) Although I have to admit the pond scum
bit was new to me ;-)

PW5Flyer - Lennie has talked enough about his family
problems (Lennie, you have my sympathy, but I still
don't like you) on r.a.s. before, it's not exactly
a state secret. I am merely re posting freely avaliable
information.

And as for your dislike of aliases, I take it PW5Flyer
is your real name then? Did your parents not like
you or something? ;-)

And fyi, I don't dislike you or lennie because of your
choice of ship (1-26 or PW5, not the ships I'd choose
but each to their own), I dislike you for your attitude
and your wallowing in self pity.

John Doe
(Lost in action somewhere north of Da Nang)

At 22:00 17 February 2005, Shawn wrote:
John Doe wrote:

You must be new! We've known Lenniebeard's 'true,
secret identity' on
this ng for years (didn't Al figure it out first?).
Just ignore him and
he'll go back to rec.metalwork sooner.
BTW, you should change your name or people will start
to think you were
an abandoned infant or an itinerant 'found down'.
;-)

Shawn

On 17 Feb 2005 23:21:30 GMT, John Doe
wrote:

(Lennie, you have my sympathy, but I still
don't like you)

Whether you like me or not doesn't concern me.. I'm quite used to
people not liking me, pilots,(a separate group) don't count. The only
friend I have in soaring was a friend long before he took up soaring.
(and also the asshole the talked me into trying it, but then, he now
owns a mill and two lathes. And a drill press, and welding torch and
tanks.)


And fyi, I don't dislike you or lennie because of your
choice of ship (1-26 or PW5, not the ships I'd choose
but each to their own),

But you're still not going to keep your ****ing mouth shut at the
field when someone shows up with one. "You can't do this, you can't
do that, you'll never be,,,, Don't even try it, you'll just be
disappointed, " and the **** remarks go on forever. It will never
change, as long as the "good ole boys" don't want it to change.
Closed and useless society.

On 17 Feb 2005 19:39:07 -0800, "Jack" wrote:

. You don't know anything about any of
us.

And you know less about me. Does it sound like I'm champing at the
bit to get to know you?

and drink beer afterwards

Sorry, but I can't stand a ****ing drunk. that **** isn't allowed on
my property. How does it feel to know you've slopped down more rotten
grain in a week than I've had in 63 years? (Damn right I'm proud of
it. Just leaves a few spare hangovers for those stupid enough to
drink it. "Have one, I don't want it.")

and I'll drag out
the guitar

My Thomas Celebrity Royale isn't portable,

my son is just home
this afternoon from the Persian Gulf,

I'm glad we're not reading about another victim. The first young man
that came home in a body bag was one too many.