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Steven wrote:
Now ,I like that statement.Good one Gorge NWPILOT, is that you? I thought you left the newsgroup? -- Peter |
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![]() "Skylune" wrote in message lkaboutaviation.com... As a certified control freak, I wouldn't fly in a light plane for any reason, especially considering how dangerous they are. I would fly in a double engine plane with a very well trained, professional pilot, of course, but that clearly rules you out.... Troll....PLONK!! |
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Peter R. wrote:
Oh, I know: You just returned from a long day of scraping Zebra Mussels off the hull... Naw .. he just got the bill from the marina getting it ready for summer and into the water. George Patterson Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry, and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing? Because she smells like a new truck. |
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In a previous article, Bob Noel said:
In article outaviation.com, "Skylune" wrote: That's a good one. You fly boys want control of the lakes too! Get Phil Boyer on it immediately! Such attitudes beget groups like Stop the Noise, Plane Sense, etc. troll You're only *now* realizing that? Everything this idiot has posted has been a deliberate troll, and the only amusement I'm getting out of this group these days is seeing how many people are falling over themselves trying to respond to him. -- Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/ "There is always a way." -- Rick Grant (quoting RCAF pilot training) |
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![]() "Skylune" wrote in message lkaboutaviation.com... Do you think the pilot would be upset if I took my formula 27 pc, which weighs in at about 10,500 pounds and has twin 350s and created some nice wake action for him to make the touchdowns more exciting? I think I have right of way on the lake, but the FARs provide me no guidance. You are responsible for your wake and you don't have right of way over much of anything in a powerboat. Mike MU-2 |
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![]() "Skylune" wrote in message lkaboutaviation.com... That is absurd. Every day there are stories about drunk drivers and/or boaters. Thing is, they get CAUGHT. That is the distinction. Now, I know that certain pilots have this superiority complex thing. I think it is mostly the $3500/21 day pilots, and not the pros. Remember this, if you land your plane on the lake, you follow OUR rules, and i can legally come within 200 feet of you at any speed I choose. When I see a rude pilot try to muscle his way onto the lake, I am going to exercise MY legal right to boat. And my 27PC with both screws turning around 4100 rpms can put out a mean wake. Then you can whine to your boy Phil Boyer. Another white trash boater. Mike Lives on a lake. |
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![]() Hear, hear! -R STEVEN SIMPSON wrote: Now ,I like that statement.Good one Gorge. "George Patterson" wrote in message news:FiHre.5847$fa3.921@trndny01... Skylune wrote: By the way, when a private pilot gets into his/her plane, who checks to see if he/she is drunk or otherwise intoxicated? The same guy who checks to see if you're sober before you get into your car. George Patterson Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry, and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing? Because she smells like a new truck. |
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![]() i dont know what would make you think that butt i have a prety god idea I did also think George made an eloquent statement, though. ![]() -R Peter R. wrote: Steven wrote: Now ,I like that statement.Good one Gorge NWPILOT, is that you? I thought you left the newsgroup? -- Peter |
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The FAA doesn't have jurisdiction over operations landing rights water.
There are some basic right of way rules in 91.115, but it is the same as basic boating right of way rules. The question of whether landing a Seaplane on a lake almost alway comes down to this. What agency has juridiction over the boating on the lake? Even though a Seaplane isn't really a boat, the agency that controls the recreation on the lake is the one that would control the Seaplane landing rules on the lake. Seaplanes are only subject to Coast Guard rules if the Coast Guard has jurisdiction over the water way, which is NOT always the case, it just depends..It can be the county, city, state or some Federal agency, all depends on who manages the recreation on the lake. I usually recommend a pilot contemplating landing on a lake he isn't sure about, call the agency that administers the boat ramp, checks for life vests, etc. If you can't find out who that is, visit the local marina or boat ramp and ask around. As a Seaplane owner, I tend to think that Seaplanes are no worse than power boats. They don't cause particuarly big wakes. And their operations on the lake are fairly infrequent compared to boating operations. The usual complaint is noise, which is a consideration. Careful choice of take off and landing will usually limit noise to reasonable levels. So far as seeing a kayak goes, an object as large as a kayak is no problem for a Seaplane to see. Contrary to what most people think, Seaplanes don't need special "sea lanes" or landing zones on the lake. They just pick a spot that is open and become like a boat once they land. Technically Seaplanes usually aren't considered "water vessels" which usually excempts them from any speed limitations on water vessels. There is always some question whether a Seaplane can land on a lake that doesn't expressly permit Seaplane usage, but doesn't have a rule against it either. This one is best worked out on a case by case basis, using common sense. |
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I've always wondered why folks will spend so much money to burn all
that fuel to run very large engines on a boat when the things are just so darned slow and limited to movement in two dimensions. Maybe it's so they can make a great deal of noise, erode shorelines with their wake, leak gasoline and oil into the water and upset as many people as possible who are simply out to have a nice day on a lake in their boats and airplanes that have far smaller engines. . Or are large engines on a boat an attempt to compensate for some sort of physical shortcoming? It's one of those Freudian questions that keep occurring when you hear loud boaters exercising their perceived legal rights to create large wakes and offend as many people as humanly possible. It's sad that so many of those noisy, big engine boaters seem to have day jobs at Burger King. Perhaps that accounts for their overt hostility to other recreational users of lakes and generally whiny natures. A person just can't help but wonder and stay out of the way of nutballs in big, loud boats that create big wakes while moving slowly. |
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