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Old June 14th 05, 11:45 PM
Peter R.
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Steven wrote:

Now ,I like that statement.Good one Gorge


NWPILOT, is that you? I thought you left the newsgroup?

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Old June 14th 05, 11:46 PM
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"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
As a certified control freak, I wouldn't fly in a light plane for any
reason, especially considering how dangerous they are. I would fly in a
double engine plane with a very well trained, professional pilot, of
course, but that clearly rules you out....

Troll....PLONK!!


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Old June 15th 05, 12:21 AM
George Patterson
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Peter R. wrote:

Oh, I know: You just returned from a long day of scraping Zebra
Mussels off the hull...


Naw .. he just got the bill from the marina getting it ready for summer and into
the water.

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.
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Old June 15th 05, 01:06 AM
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In a previous article, Bob Noel said:
In article outaviation.com,
"Skylune" wrote:
That's a good one. You fly boys want control of the lakes too! Get Phil
Boyer on it immediately!

Such attitudes beget groups like Stop the Noise, Plane Sense, etc.


troll


You're only *now* realizing that? Everything this idiot has posted has
been a deliberate troll, and the only amusement I'm getting out of this
group these days is seeing how many people are falling over themselves
trying to respond to him.

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Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
"There is always a way."
-- Rick Grant (quoting RCAF pilot training)
  #35  
Old June 15th 05, 01:44 AM
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"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
Do you think the pilot would be upset if I took my formula 27 pc, which
weighs in at about 10,500 pounds and has twin 350s and created some nice
wake action for him to make the touchdowns more exciting?

I think I have right of way on the lake, but the FARs provide me no
guidance.


You are responsible for your wake and you don't have right of way over much
of anything in a powerboat.

Mike
MU-2


  #36  
Old June 15th 05, 01:49 AM
Mike Rapoport
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"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
That is absurd. Every day there are stories about drunk drivers and/or
boaters. Thing is, they get CAUGHT. That is the distinction.

Now, I know that certain pilots have this superiority complex thing. I
think it is mostly the $3500/21 day pilots, and not the pros.

Remember this, if you land your plane on the lake, you follow OUR rules,
and i can legally come within 200 feet of you at any speed I choose.
When I see a rude pilot try to muscle his way onto the lake, I am going to
exercise MY legal right to boat. And my 27PC with both screws turning
around 4100 rpms can put out a mean wake. Then you can whine to your boy
Phil Boyer.


Another white trash boater.

Mike
Lives on a lake.


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Old June 15th 05, 02:06 AM
Rob
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Hear, hear!

-R

STEVEN SIMPSON wrote:
Now ,I like that statement.Good one Gorge.
"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:FiHre.5847$fa3.921@trndny01...
Skylune wrote:

By the way, when a private pilot gets into his/her plane, who checks to
see if he/she is drunk or otherwise intoxicated?


The same guy who checks to see if you're sober before you get into your
car.

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.


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Old June 15th 05, 02:09 AM
Rob
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i dont know what would make you think that butt i have a prety god idea

I did also think George made an eloquent statement, though.

-R


Peter R. wrote:
Steven wrote:

Now ,I like that statement.Good one Gorge


NWPILOT, is that you? I thought you left the newsgroup?

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Old June 15th 05, 02:35 AM
Doug
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The FAA doesn't have jurisdiction over operations landing rights water.
There are some basic right of way rules in 91.115, but it is the same
as basic boating right of way rules.

The question of whether landing a Seaplane on a lake almost alway comes
down to this. What agency has juridiction over the boating on the lake?
Even though a Seaplane isn't really a boat, the agency that controls
the recreation on the lake is the one that would control the Seaplane
landing rules on the lake. Seaplanes are only subject to Coast Guard
rules if the Coast Guard has jurisdiction over the water way, which is
NOT always the case, it just depends..It can be the county, city, state
or some Federal agency, all depends on who manages the recreation on
the lake.

I usually recommend a pilot contemplating landing on a lake he isn't
sure about, call the agency that administers the boat ramp, checks for
life vests, etc. If you can't find out who that is, visit the local
marina or boat ramp and ask around.

As a Seaplane owner, I tend to think that Seaplanes are no worse than
power boats. They don't cause particuarly big wakes. And their
operations on the lake are fairly infrequent compared to boating
operations. The usual complaint is noise, which is a consideration.
Careful choice of take off and landing will usually limit noise to
reasonable levels.

So far as seeing a kayak goes, an object as large as a kayak is no
problem for a Seaplane to see. Contrary to what most people think,
Seaplanes don't need special "sea lanes" or landing zones on the lake.
They just pick a spot that is open and become like a boat once they
land. Technically Seaplanes usually aren't considered "water vessels"
which usually excempts them from any speed limitations on water
vessels. There is always some question whether a Seaplane can land on a
lake that doesn't expressly permit Seaplane usage, but doesn't have a
rule against it either. This one is best worked out on a case by case
basis, using common sense.

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Old June 15th 05, 03:01 AM
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I've always wondered why folks will spend so much money to burn all
that fuel to run very large engines on a boat when the things are just
so darned slow and limited to movement in two dimensions. Maybe it's
so they can make a great deal of noise, erode shorelines with their
wake, leak gasoline and oil into the water and upset as many people as
possible who are simply out to have a nice day on a lake in their boats
and airplanes that have far smaller engines. .

Or are large engines on a boat an attempt to compensate for some sort
of physical shortcoming? It's one of those Freudian questions that
keep occurring when you hear loud boaters exercising their perceived
legal rights to create large wakes and offend as many people as humanly
possible.

It's sad that so many of those noisy, big engine boaters seem to have
day jobs at Burger King. Perhaps that accounts for their overt
hostility to other recreational users of lakes and generally whiny
natures.

A person just can't help but wonder and stay out of the way of nutballs
in big, loud boats that create big wakes while moving slowly.

 




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