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Old July 17th 05, 04:43 PM
George Patterson
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Blueskies wrote:

Maybe all
roads should have a vehicle proof divider to be sure we are not going to have a collision with that other car;


That's called a "Jersey Barrier."

George Patterson
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and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.
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Old July 17th 05, 08:03 PM
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 08:48:39 -0400, Bob Noel wrote:

What rule is this?


On flights to DCA, all passengers remain in their seats for the last
30 minutes of the flight.

On flights departing DCA, all passengers remain in their seats for the
first 30 minutes of the flight.


is this the DCA in the "land of the free an the brave"? or is there another
DCA somewhere on this wonderful planet?

scnr,

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Old July 17th 05, 08:58 PM
George Patterson
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Martin Hotze wrote:

is this the DCA in the "land of the free an the brave"?


Used to be. The media and politicians are trying their best to turn us all into
a bunch of cowards, living what passes for lives in cocoons of safety and security.

Seen the new Star Wars flick yet? Palatine announces the abolition of the
council and says "I will keep you safe. I will bring you security." And the
princess says "So this is how freedom dies."

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.
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Old July 17th 05, 11:23 PM
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" Blueskies" wrote in
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Snipola
IMHO, the biggest problem we have is the proliferation of 'laws' that
are issued as a knee jerk reaction to some singular event. Forget that
there are already laws in place that would cover the event; the new
'law' appeases the media and is meant to show that the politicians are
doing their job. There are all kinds of these 'laws' that are
selectively enforced. How may times have you (not you specifically Neil
;-) seen an idiot driver doing some stupid human trick while driving
that was obviously illegal, but no-one did anything about it. This
selective enforcement dilutes any enforcement of laws that should really
count.

Snipola

Going off on a tangent....

I have seen people break laws right in front of police officers.
I can only surmise the officer was busy looking elsewhere.

Then again, I have seen police officers break quite a few laws
themsleves. I have been nearly run off the road by officers
breaking traffic laws without use of sirens or lights. I have
seen officers speeding at speeds in excess of 80 in a 45 to
meet friends at an eatery. I've even seen a police car flip on
it's lights to run a red light only turn into a donut shop. No
joke!!

When I have the chance I've started reporting them or even
appraoching them personally on the topic.

Most recently I saw a sheriff car park in the fire lane in front
of my grocery store only to walk inside and go to the deli. I
politely walked up and asked, "If I were to park in a red zone
to come into get a sandwich, would I get a ticket?" He replied,
"yes." I thanked him and walked away. I made my point.

Some have said, and some may continue to say I'm effing nuts. But
the point is, law enforcement is NOT above the law.

Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

End tangent.

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Old July 18th 05, 03:29 AM
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"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:YLyCe.3802$xe3.29@trndny09...
Martin Hotze wrote:

is this the DCA in the "land of the free an the brave"?


Used to be. The media and politicians are trying their best to turn us all

into
a bunch of cowards, living what passes for lives in cocoons of safety and

security.

Seen the new Star Wars flick yet? Palatine announces the abolition of the
council and says "I will keep you safe. I will bring you security." And

the
princess says "So this is how freedom dies."


"Not with a bang but a whimper."


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Old July 18th 05, 04:27 AM
Larry Dighera
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 21:03:41 +0200, Martin Hotze
wrote in
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 08:48:39 -0400, Bob Noel wrote:

What rule is this?


On flights to DCA, all passengers remain in their seats for the last
30 minutes of the flight.

On flights departing DCA, all passengers remain in their seats for the
first 30 minutes of the flight.


is this the DCA in the "land of the free an the brave"? or is there another
DCA somewhere on this wonderful planet?



Thank you.


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Old July 18th 05, 04:34 AM
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 22:23:26 -0000, Skywise
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I have seen police officers break quite a few laws
themsleves.


You must have hung out with the LA Rampart Street LEOs:
http://www.lapdonline.org/releases/1999/99_09/ocop2.htm
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Old July 18th 05, 06:00 AM
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Larry Dighera wrote in
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 22:23:26 -0000, Skywise
wrote in
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I have seen police officers break quite a few laws
themsleves.


You must have hung out with the LA Rampart Street LEOs:
http://www.lapdonline.org/releases/1999/99_09/ocop2.htm


Naw...just what I have observed while driving.

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Old July 19th 05, 11:04 AM
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Bob Noel wrote:

1) the DC ADIZ isn't new is it? It isn't the only ADIZ, is it?


New is a relative term. It's post 9-11.

It's not the only ADIZ, however, it bears NO RESEMBLANCE either
in operating rule, regulatory status, or any thing other than NAME
to the off-shore ADIZ or the one between the US and MEXICO.


2) Given that I've worked on USAF Air Defense systems, including
stuff in the NCR, I better know the purpose of the DC ADIZ.


Really, how so?


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Old July 19th 05, 01:48 PM
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In article ,
Ron Natalie wrote:

2) Given that I've worked on USAF Air Defense systems, including
stuff in the NCR, I better know the purpose of the DC ADIZ.


Really, how so?


Because it was part of my job to know the purpose.

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no one likes an educated mule

 




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