Stop whining, America!

"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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"Jay Honeck" wrote:

Well, a very serious argument can be made that the environmental
regulations of the last 30 years have seriously harmed our economy.

It can if one ignores the economic benefits of a clean environment and
unrealistically magnifes the impact of environmental regulation.

False alternative.
http://www.datanation.com/fallacies/distract/fd.htm

"JohnH" wrote in message
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Fuel went up 50% in the past year with a
well-connected-to-the-oil-companies
president at the helm,

Gee..the prices went up WORLD WIDE! Is he president of the World?

with these same companies making record profits. The
agenda is not-so-hidden, is it?

But we fought Iraq for cheap oil!!!

Your apparent comprehension of world oil markets/prices reminds me of the
snippets my senile uncle sends me about not buying gas on certain days.


Get out and fly, people! Life is good!

Definitely do it while you can. Fuel aside, GA is nearing it's end. Go
Bush! And take Cheney with you.

Yeah, let's have Kerry or Gore, both of whom said we should be paying $5 a
gallon (and also said they would work to reduce oil costs when that barfed
on them.

Go ask your teachers is this is what you REALLY think.

Boats that go places don't use their engines much.

ObOrganization: Seven Seas Cruising Association. Lots of
circumnavigators there.

Don

On 2005-08-26, ls wrote:
(it's no accident that our fearless leader GWB is suddenly pushing
hydrogen fuel cells and alternative energies - he's spoken with Simmons
on many occasions recently).

Trouble with hydrogen as a fuel... the only economical way we have of
making it is using fossil fuels, so it is NOT a solution for peak oil.

Not without a major investment in nuclear powerplants (so hydrogen can
be obtained by electrolysis).

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

wrote:

coastal stinkpotter

Blowboater...

Aquanauts, just like aviates just want to be doing it, doesn't much care
what its in... Sometimes...

Yep that one was silly I've never been in the Great Lakes but I sure have
been across the ocean. I have seen waves coming over the flight deck of a
carrier and destroyers spending more time under the water than on the
surface. The outside of a hurricane is a very interesting experience at sea.
I think you under estimate the power of the open sea and definitely under
estimate the ability of a professional sailor.
Those destroyer boys are sure a special breed. I tip my hat to them.
Sailing the seas was an adventure I'll never forget. Some of the most
beautiful sunsets and sunrises I've ever seen. Tranquil waters that looked
like the ship was sailing over glass,..and then all of a sudden the most
destructive , powerful force in nature sets it's eyes upon you and you are
looking down a valley of ocean like looking off a mountain top...the next
minute you are looking up at the ocean on either side of you like you are in
the valley looking up at the tops of mountains.
Sitting on the bow of that carrier with your legs hanging off the front
of the ship, playing guitar under a beautiful clear sky full of stars as far
as you can see, the sounds of the waves on the hull as she pushes her way
onward to the next port. Sometimes when you are there it is hard to believe
the awesome force and violence that the same ocean can give you on any other
day at any other time.
A great experience that I wish more people could share. Sailor green on
the Great Lakes? I don't think so. A newbie, sure ..but not a stout old
salt. We did have a boy from NYC that stayed green the entire time we were
out at sea...I mean the entire trip! I know he was miserable but it was
still pretty funny

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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"Jay Honeck" wrote:

"Turbulence" on Lake Michigan will turn the stoutest blue-water Navy man
green.

Tee-hee! Don't be silly:

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7793

Now you folks are on my turf. I can take my Formula 27 PC with twin 350s
20-30 minutes out into the Peconic Bay off Long Island (Robins Island),
anchor, and spend the rest of the day kayaking, swimming, reading,
fishing, etc. A 105 gallon tank is painful to refuel, but I'm only on my
3rd partial fillup of the season (about $3.10 bucks a gallon for 91 octane
currently). Should be good till end of September. I'd estimate I spent
about $500-600 bucks on gas this year. I'll admit to not going out to
Block Island, up the Connecticut River (except earlier in the year), up to
the Island (Martha's Vineyard, Nantucket) because of the cost of fuel. But
I am using my boat as much as ever. You see, boats have anchors......

A boater can adjust to rising gas prices by not driving to far off places
like Nantucket (from LI). No one I know keeps their boats at the dock due
to gas -- minor expense relative to cost of the boat, maintenance, docking
fees, transient docking fees, etc.

On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 08:25:31 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
wrote:

But we fought Iraq for cheap oil!!!

I could have sworn our fearless leader, and his worthy staff kept
saying we had to invade to find Iraq's weapons of mass destruction,
and because Iraq was a terrorist nation.

Was he, what's that word I'm looking for, I don't know... oh yeh,
WRONG?

"We know they have weapons of mass destruction, and we know where they
ARE!!" Donald Rumsfeld.

“There’s a lot of money to pay for this that doesn’t have to be U.S.
taxpayer money, and it starts with the assets of the Iraqi people…and
on a rough recollection, the oil revenues of that country could bring
between $50 and $100 billion over the course of the next two or three
years…We’re dealing with a country that can really finance its own
reconstruction, and relatively soon.” Deputy Defense Secretary Paul
Wolfowitz: [Source: House Committee on Appropriations Hearing on a
Supplemental War Regulation, 3/27/03]

Corky Scott

SNIP
It was the major factor in my decision to sell my flying club share; I'm
out.

SNIP
Fuel went up 50% in the past year with a well-connected-to-the-oil-companies
president at the helm, with these same companies making record profits. The
agenda is not-so-hidden, is it?

SNIP
Definitely do it while you can. Fuel aside, GA is nearing it's end. Go
Bush! And take Cheney with you.

Wait a minute -- you whine like a stuck pig throughout your post, and
then have the poor taste to change the subject line to "Stop whining,
JAY!"???

The economy is grand, business is sky-high, the flying is awesome, the
plane is running great, and gas is still 1/3 of what our counterparts
in Europe are paying -- and you're complaining? Quit whining, and go
FLY.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Matt Barrow wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
But we fought Iraq for cheap oil!!!
So why don't we have it? Hint: we purchase oil on the world market
like everybody else. OPEC sets the price.