A320 with gear problem over LA

"Michael" wrote

He was a captain for a major airline. They can pretty much ALL fly
that way, excepting the ocasional screwup. They've all had thousands
of hours to practice.

Why, thank you Michael!

Bob Moore
PanAm (retired)

Bob Moore wrote:
He was a captain for a major airline. They can pretty much ALL fly
that way, excepting the ocasional screwup. They've all had thousands
of hours to practice.

Why, thank you Michael!

Don't get too excited, and don't start feeling too special. I know and
flew with a few people who managed to rack up hours in 5 digits without
being airline pilots. The worst of them flew better and was more
impressive overall than the best airline pilot I ever flew with.

It's not that being an airline pilots is something special - it's just
that if you fly that many hours, you're bound to get good just by sheer
repetition - and nothing really substitutes for time in the seat.

Michael

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I don't understand why they couldn't have sent two guys with sticks out
on the runway in their Jeep. It worked earlier in the week.

("Kev" wrote)
[snip]
Some mention of the fact that the pilot pretty much kept the airliner
on the centerline... which of course probably doesn't please LAX's
runway maintenance guy grin, who might have to repaint it.


Speaking of maintenance guys ..we came in late to the footage, but saw
people deplaning - LIVE. Did anyone put a jack under the nose of that jet?
All I saw was the truck with the steps.

I was pointing at the TV saying. "Don't walk under the plane people."

They weren't listening to me. At one point I counted 10 people under the
plane's nose, milling about.

By now I'm getting agitated, "Levees break people!!" I couldn't watch
anymore. Please tell me they put a jack under the front of that plane, and I
missed that part of the coverage.

Hey, while I'm at it ...it's LAX people AND you've had hours to plan. One
truck with stairs? It's LAX - all exits open, get those people off the plane
and get that plane off the runway ...NOW!!

You'll probably hear the excuse that they were waiting for the feds, which
"technically" they are. g


Montblack

Speaking of maintenance guys ..we came in late to the footage, but saw
people deplaning - LIVE. Did anyone put a jack under the nose of that jet?
All I saw was the truck with the steps.

Yeah, we were all talking the same thing. I sure as heck wouldn't have
walked under the nose of that plane -- and I didn't see any jack.

And what was up with deplaning? This thing comes sliding to a halt with its
nose gear smoking, and NO ONE gets off the plane for, what 10 minutes? I
understand that there was no reason to "blow the slides" but they sure
didn't seem to have anyone waiting in the wings with the air-stairs for
those poor folks.

Can you imagine being on that plane? I'll bet everyone was standing up
immediately after stopping, clamoring to get off, pronto!

Stranger still, how long did it take those fire trucks to appear in the
screen after the plane slid to a stop? It seemed close to a full minute,
although my memory could be faulty -- maybe it was 30 seconds. Either way,
what happened to the "trucks chasing the plane down the runway?" Shoot, it
looked like they had enough equipment there to place a fire truck every 200
feet on that 12,000 foot runway.

From my oh-so-comfy FoxNews vantage point, it seemed like a less than
stellar performance by LAX -- but, of course, all is well that ends well.
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I saw it live and thought the same thing. I'd have figured once the
plane stopped w/engines shut down all the exits would have opened and
slides deployed, but maybe their checklist is different? The strobes
seemed to stay on forever.

I was amused by a reported repeatedly asking (I think an NTSB or FAA
guy) "They're NOT going to foam the runway??" I was a trained ARFF
responder at a regional airport and we'd never foam a runway (not that
we were never asked - it's just Hollywood BS) because there's no
guarantee the pilot wouldn't overshoot the part you foamed. In a
gear-up landing we'd just wait till he stopped sliding and pull up with
the turret deployed looking for any sign of fire. Maybe deploy a foam
handline if it was a small plane but that's about it. A gear collapse
was pretty much a non-event to us.

The airport fire dept. has 3 minutes (FAA mandated) to get to the
scene of the accident (on-airport) so I'd say 30 seconds for the first
LAX fire rigs to show up is acceptable.

In article .com,
wrote:
I saw it live and thought the same thing. I'd have figured once the
plane stopped w/engines shut down all the exits would have opened and
slides deployed, but maybe their checklist is different? The strobes
seemed to stay on forever.


There was no fire, the nose strut held ok... no need to deply the chutes.


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