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Sylvain wrote:
ThomasH wrote: The making of an Airbus is literally like the caricature about the bureaucracy in the "United Europe." It is a maze of parts and subcomponent tourism (Super Goopies and Belugas are being used.) For example wings for the A320 are being made in Bremen, Germany. Many wing components come from Britain, after which they ship the wings to Toulouse, France in a Goopy. etc etc. and who makes the nose gear specifically? :-) Nessier-Dowty, who are also supplying the gear for the Boeing 787. The nose gear for the A320 is manufactured in their plant in Bidos, France. |
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On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 23:40:55 -0700, ThomasH wrote:
It almost sounds as if you would be believing that Airbus is French. :-) It is, for all practical purposes. There would be no Airbus without France; it's located in Toulouse; and France is the largest stakeholder. -- all the best, Dan Ford email (put Cubdriver in subject line) Warbird's Forum: www.warbirdforum.com Piper Cub Forum: www.pipercubforum.com the blog: www.danford.net In Search of Lost Time: www.readingproust.com |
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Cub Driver wrote:
ThomasH wrote: It almost sounds as if you would be believing that Airbus is French. :-) It is, for all practical purposes. There would be no Airbus without France; it's located in Toulouse; and France is the largest stakeholder. Not true. The Toulouse plant may be where final assembly is done, and where the operating headquarters of Airbus is located, but there are a number of other manufacturing plants, and France is not the largest stakeholder. The company is 20% owned by British Aerospace, with the remaining 80% owned by EADS. According to the following site, the ownership or EADS is: http://www.reports.eads.net/2004/ar_...c_b3_3_3_0.php - 30.2% Daimler Chrysler - 15.1% Government of France - 15.1% Lagardère (A French corporation) - 5.5% Government of Spain - 33.2% Publicly held shares Therefore, the French government only owns about 12% of airbus, and is not the largest shareholder. |
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James Robinson wrote:
Cub Driver wrote: ThomasH wrote: It almost sounds as if you would be believing that Airbus is French. :-) It is, for all practical purposes. There would be no Airbus without France; it's located in Toulouse; and France is the largest stakeholder. Not true. The Toulouse plant may be where final assembly is done, and where the operating headquarters of Airbus is located, but there are a number of other manufacturing plants, and France is not the largest stakeholder. The company is 20% owned by British Aerospace, with the remaining 80% owned by EADS. According to the following site, the ownership or EADS is: http://www.reports.eads.net/2004/ar_...c_b3_3_3_0.php - 30.2% Daimler Chrysler - 15.1% Government of France - 15.1% Lagardère (A French corporation) - 5.5% Government of Spain - 33.2% Publicly held shares Therefore, the French government only owns about 12% of airbus, and is not the largest shareholder. Why should that interest anyone? What those figures do show is that French ownership is in the range 24.16 to 50.72 %, depending on what portion of the "Publicly held shares" are in French hands. Even at the minimum limit of 24 %, French participation is still bigger than that of any other country, as far as one can tell from those numbers. So which country has a larger stake than France according to you ? CV |
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CV wrote:
- 30.2% Daimler Chrysler - 15.1% Government of France - 15.1% Lagardère (A French corporation) - 5.5% Government of Spain - 33.2% Publicly held shares So which country has a larger stake than France according to you ? What percentage of Daimler Chrisler is USA owned? ;-) Why should that interest anyone? Exactly. Stefan |
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CV wrote:
James Robinson wrote: Cub Driver wrote: ThomasH wrote: It almost sounds as if you would be believing that Airbus is French. It is, for all practical purposes. There would be no Airbus without France; it's located in Toulouse; and France is the largest stakeholder. Not true. The Toulouse plant may be where final assembly is done, and where the operating headquarters of Airbus is located, but there are a number of other manufacturing plants, and France is not the largest stakeholder. The company is 20% owned by British Aerospace, with the remaining 80% owned by EADS. According to the following site, the ownership or EADS is: http://www.reports.eads.net/2004/ar_...c_b3_3_3_0.php - 30.2% Daimler Chrysler - 15.1% Government of France - 15.1% Lagardère (A French corporation) - 5.5% Government of Spain - 33.2% Publicly held shares Therefore, the French government only owns about 12% of airbus, and is not the largest shareholder. Why should that interest anyone? Someone made an incorrect statement, I was simply correcting it. What those figures do show is that French ownership is in the range 24.16 to 50.72%, depending on what portion of the "Publicly held shares" are in French hands. Even at the minimum limit of 24%, French participation is still bigger than that of any other country, as far as one can tell from those numbers. So which country has a larger stake than France according to you ? No country, but there are larger stakeholders. The poster had suggested that France, as in the country, was the largest stakeholder (he didn't say "the French" or "French shareholders") Daimler Chrysler is the largest stakeholder, and British Aerospace is also larger than the French Government. |
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On 2005-09-28, CV wrote:
Even at the minimum limit of 24 %, French participation is still bigger than that of any other country, as far as one can tell from those numbers. Since when was Daimler-Chrysler a French company? -- Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net "Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee" |
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It almost sounds as if you would be believing that Airbus is French. :-)
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Does anyone have any insight into why the A320 isn't able to dump fuel.
What factors would go into such a design compromise? After listening to you in this thread, I'll bet you're one of those people who thinks its a good idea for ATC to be able to take over flying an airplane in an emergency. |
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Because they are French.
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