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  #31  
Old October 30th 05, 05:31 AM
Blanche
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Bob Gardner wrote:
Before I had a car with automatic daytime running lights (05 Corolla), I
routinely turned on my headlights during the day. DRLs are mandatory in
Canada and many other countries. Motorcyclists keep their headlights on
during the day to enhance visibility. The "camouflage" theory is faulty.


But why on earth must the motorcyclists keep the day lights on HIGH?
I can see them just fine with regular lights. The HIGH beams not only
force me to hit the night option on my rearview mirror (reducing the
chance to see cars without any lights in the mirror) but are incredibly
aggravating.

Enhancing visibility is a good idea. Blinding me is not.



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Old October 30th 05, 05:57 AM
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"kristoffer-m20j" wrote in

that being said what is the SOP for airliners when it comes to turning
on the landing light. Is it altitude based, distance etc...


below 10000.


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Old October 30th 05, 06:39 AM
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"Blanche" wrote

But why on earth must the motorcyclists keep the day lights on HIGH?
I can see them just fine with regular lights. The HIGH beams not only
force me to hit the night option on my rearview mirror (reducing the
chance to see cars without any lights in the mirror) but are incredibly
aggravating.

Enhancing visibility is a good idea. Blinding me is not.


Are you talking about the high lights being a problem during the day, or at
night?
--
Jim in NC

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Old October 30th 05, 06:46 AM
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In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:


There is also a Quartz equivalent lamp #Q4509 with the same
specifications except a 100 hour life and 140,000 candlepower.



The Q4509 is what I used in the 182. With the standard bulb I'd be
lucky to get 25 hours, with the Q bulb I was getting 100+ hours.

--
Dale L. Falk

There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing around with airplanes.

http://home.gci.net/~sncdfalk/flying.html
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Old October 30th 05, 06:47 AM
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"W P Dixon" wrote

I hate those car lights!,
Oh they'd be great on my car while driving, but being in a car heading
into them I hate it! Blinds the crap out of me in my wife's low sitting

car.
Doesn't bother me as bad in my truck.


I know what you mean. IMHO, they ought to be banned, except for use on high
beam, with a regular light for low beam.

I don't know if there are any stats on crashes being caused by blindness
from oncoming cars with HID's, or if there ever has been a crashed cause by
HID blindness. There have been times when I felt unsafe, because of being
temporarily blinded by those things on two lane roads.
--
Jim in NC

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Old October 30th 05, 08:05 AM
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I will defer to more knowledgeable AMEs here for an "exact" definition if I
am using the term "certified" incorrectly .

What I meant was FAA approved replacement part as compared with similar
specification part lacking correct aviation paperwork. It is my
understanding that some owners install (but do not log) non-certified??
replacement bulbs due to much lower cost.

Happy landings,

"Mike W." wrote in message
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What is a certified bulb, exactly?

"Private" wrote in message
news:fuP8f.345716$tl2.15531@pd7tw3no...
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I would think that owners who are not as fussy about
using certified bulbs are more likely to use the light for safety.





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Old October 30th 05, 09:11 AM
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"Private" wrote in message
news:Y8%8f.351571$oW2.280247@pd7tw1no...
I will defer to more knowledgeable AMEs here for an "exact" definition if I
am using the term "certified" incorrectly .

What I meant was FAA approved replacement part as compared with similar
specification part lacking correct aviation paperwork. It is my
understanding that some owners install (but do not log) non-certified??
replacement bulbs due to much lower cost.



There is a current thread, subject "Landing Lights at NAPA", on
rec.aviation.owning that discusses this subject extensively.

Happy landings,


"Mike W." wrote in message
...
What is a certified bulb, exactly?

"Private" wrote in message
news:fuP8f.345716$tl2.15531@pd7tw3no...
snip
I would think that owners who are not as fussy about
using certified bulbs are more likely to use the light for safety.







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Old October 30th 05, 09:11 AM
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On 29 Oct 2005 21:32:48 -0700, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

Before I had a car with automatic daytime running lights (05 Corolla), I
routinely turned on my headlights during the day. DRLs are mandatory in
Canada and many other countries. Motorcyclists keep their headlights on
during the day to enhance visibility. The "camouflage" theory is faulty.


Apples and oranges. On the ground, a landing light (or headlights)
will probably enhance visibility, even in the daytime. (Although, as
other posters have noted, not all the time.)

I see a lot of the newer cars with those damed bluish white lights.
They say they are better than the regular ones, but to older eyes
those things are blinding. One on dims is worse than a set of
halogens on bright for me.

I don't fly around with my landing light on (unless I forget) as it's
in the wheel well and does nothing except warm up the well a tad.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
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Old October 30th 05, 09:15 AM
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On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 01:39:35 -0500, "Morgans"
wrote:


"Blanche" wrote

But why on earth must the motorcyclists keep the day lights on HIGH?
I can see them just fine with regular lights. The HIGH beams not only
force me to hit the night option on my rearview mirror (reducing the
chance to see cars without any lights in the mirror) but are incredibly
aggravating.

Enhancing visibility is a good idea. Blinding me is not.


Are you talking about the high lights being a problem during the day, or at
night?


Both!

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
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Old October 30th 05, 09:16 AM
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:04:08 -0800, Dale wrote:

In article . com,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:



I wonder, though -- do landing lights in the daytime really do that
much for you? I seem to recall reading that bright lights coming at
you during daylight hours actually tends to camouflage what is behind
them.

(Groping back into the distant recesses of my history minor here...)
Didn't the British actually experiment with using extremely bright
lights to hide their aircraft during the day?


Do headlights hide an oncoming car? No.


But they make a VW look like it's twice as far away as a buic right
beside it.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

The US did some work using a bank of lights facing forward to hide an
aircraft for ASW work. From what I've read it was effective, but was
never implemented.

 




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