Boeing 747 & 777 autoland in crosswind certification video - impressive!

Same here..hit 'n git.
Worked fine for me..

Dave


On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 13:29:41 -0800, "Peter Duniho"
wrote:

"Stefan" wrote in message
...
Jay, the problem with your QuickTime movies is definitely at the serer
(i.e. your) side.

If it's his server, then why do Quicktime files play just fine on my
computer, with a single click?

In fact, this is such a common problem, that I've created this page:

http://alexisparkinn.com/video_tech_support.htm

Jay, the problem with your QuickTime movies is definitely at the serer
(i.e. your) side. I'm working on a Mac (i.e. no wincrap player) and watch
streamed ("one-click", as you call it) QuickTime movies pretty often from
within many different browsers and standalone players. This has always
worked without any glitch, except from your site.

Interesting. Jav Henderson (of this very newsgroup) provides hosting
services for our website -- so perhaps he can shed light on this problem?

To be honest, I've had so many problems with Quicktime lately that I've
pretty much dumped it, and reverted to RealPlayer.

But don't think I'm against Quicktime. About a year ago, I got so
frustrated with RealPlayer trying to "hijack" my system (and everyone
else's) that I completely removed it from my computer. It's good to see
that the latest version of RP no longer "holds" parts of your system (like
it used to) when you try to make (for example) Windows Media Player your
default video player. That REALLY ****ed me off, and caused video playback
to fail in whatever player you used.

I'm sure whatever screwed up Quicktime's quirks will be addressed and fixed
soon -- probably at the expense of one of the other video players...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

George Patterson wrote in
news:Wowaf.5792$9E4.4834@trndny02:

Skywise wrote:

Winamp (AFAIK) only plays audio, no video.
Snipola

I use Winamp to play my mp3 audio files. There is no video capability.
Looking at the file extensions it can read I see no video formats.

But then, I am using an older version (2.8) so maybe they added it.
Hmmmmm...just looked at the website and the current version (5.11)
apparently can do video.

Well, I'm not upgrading. I went back to 2.8 after trying 3.0 when
it came out. The feature set didn't expand, it changed. There was
some features I liked that were taken out and what they replaced
them with just didn't do it for me. All I use it for is mp3's. If
I want to watch a video, I already have at least 4 other programs
for that.

Brian
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Ron Garret wrote on 11/03/05 14:13:

In article ,
Stefan wrote:


Peter Duniho wrote:


If it's his server, then why do Quicktime files play just fine on my
computer, with a single click?

I have no idea, sometimes some combinations work and others don't, and
sometimes it's just the karma of the user. But since I have been
watching streamed QT movies from a myriad of servers with no glitch, and
since there are obviously many others who have a problem with his
server, the conclusion that the problem is at his side is valid.
Besides, if there's one installation with an absolutley clean QuickTime
environment with the newest components in the universe, then it's
certainly my Mac.


The most likely cause is that the server is sending the wrong
"Content-type" header.


Apparently not:
$ wget -S http://alexisparkinn.com/photogaller...s/747_test.mov
--00:02:02-- http://alexisparkinn.com/photogaller...s/747_test.mov
= `747_test.mov'
Resolving alexisparkinn.com... 69.36.241.130
Connecting to alexisparkinn.com|69.36.241.130|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 08:02:02 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) FrontPage/5.0.2.2623 PHP/4.3.10
Last-Modified: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 00:08:50 GMT
ETag: "20cb1-b8006-4037f312"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 753670
Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100
Connection: Keep-Alive
Content-Type: video/quicktime

-Joe

In article , Joe Feise
wrote:

Ron Garret wrote on 11/03/05 14:13:

In article ,
Stefan wrote:


Peter Duniho wrote:


If it's his server, then why do Quicktime files play just fine on my
computer, with a single click?

I have no idea, sometimes some combinations work and others don't, and
sometimes it's just the karma of the user. But since I have been
watching streamed QT movies from a myriad of servers with no glitch, and
since there are obviously many others who have a problem with his
server, the conclusion that the problem is at his side is valid.
Besides, if there's one installation with an absolutley clean QuickTime
environment with the newest components in the universe, then it's
certainly my Mac.


The most likely cause is that the server is sending the wrong
"Content-type" header.


Apparently not:
$ wget -S http://alexisparkinn.com/photogaller...s/747_test.mov
--00:02:02-- http://alexisparkinn.com/photogaller...s/747_test.mov
= `747_test.mov'
Resolving alexisparkinn.com... 69.36.241.130
Connecting to alexisparkinn.com|69.36.241.130|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 08:02:02 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) FrontPage/5.0.2.2623 PHP/4.3.10
Last-Modified: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 00:08:50 GMT
ETag: "20cb1-b8006-4037f312"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 753670
Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100
Connection: Keep-Alive
Content-Type: video/quicktime

-Joe

But 747_test.mov works properly in all browsers. If you're going to
check this you have to test one of the files that doesn't work:

[ron@Mini:~]$ wget -S
http://alexisparkinn.com/photogaller...0Extreme%20Lan
ding.mpg
--08:27:03--
http://alexisparkinn.com/photogaller...0Extreme%20Lan
ding.mpg
= `Boeing 747 Extreme Landing.mpg.1'
Resolving alexisparkinn.com... 69.36.241.130
Connecting to alexisparkinn.com[69.36.241.130]:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
1 HTTP/1.1 200 OK
2 Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 16:27:03 GMT
3 Server: Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) FrontPage/5.0.2.2623 PHP/4.3.10
4 Last-Modified: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 16:14:07 GMT
5 ETag: "209ff-dea68-3f6736cf"
6 Accept-Ranges: bytes
7 Content-Length: 911976
8 Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100
9 Connection: Keep-Alive
10 Content-Type: video/mp4
^^^

As you can see, the file extension says it's an mpeg (which it is), but
the content-type header says it's an mp4. So any browser that believes
the content-type header will try to play it as an mp4 and barf. (This
explains why it works when you download it first, because then the
information from the content-type header is lost and the (correct) file
extension is used instead.)

rg

"Ron Garret" wrote in message
...
[...]
As you can see, the file extension says it's an mpeg (which it is), but
the content-type header says it's an mp4. So any browser that believes
the content-type header will try to play it as an mp4 and barf. (This
explains why it works when you download it first, because then the
information from the content-type header is lost and the (correct) file
extension is used instead.)

I'm not sure I completely get your point here. "mp4" is short for "MPEG4",
which is an MPEG format (the one that the current Quicktime and Windows
Media Video are both based on), just as the file extension suggests. It's
not actually a Quicktime format file (in spite of the close relation to
Quicktime), and so I don't see how it's relevant to the question of people
having problems with Quicktime movies.

Your statement that "the file extension says it's an mpeg (which it is)"
isn't inconsistent with the "Content-Type:" field.

"MPEG" by itself isn't a format, it's a standards group. The MPEG formats
all have version numbers, and the most common MPEG format found for online
videos is MPEG4 (MPEG1 is out of favor, MPEG2 is the format used for DVDs
and requires non-free decoders to play, and MPEG3 doesn't really exist in
the wild as far as I know).

I can see how, if someone has their Quicktime plug-in configured to attempt
to play those "video/mp4" files, that might cause problems (if the Quicktime
player doesn't handle them correctly...my computer is configured to use
Windows Media Player for those files, and it works fine). But that's still
an issue with the client configuration, not the server.

Pete

Ron Garret wrote:
In article , Joe Feise
wrote:


But 747_test.mov works properly in all browsers. If you're going to
check this you have to test one of the files that doesn't work:

[ron@Mini:~]$ wget -S
http://alexisparkinn.com/photogaller...0Extreme%20Lan
ding.mpg
--08:27:03--
http://alexisparkinn.com/photogaller...0Extreme%20Lan
ding.mpg
= `Boeing 747 Extreme Landing.mpg.1'
Resolving alexisparkinn.com... 69.36.241.130
Connecting to alexisparkinn.com[69.36.241.130]:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
1 HTTP/1.1 200 OK
2 Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 16:27:03 GMT
3 Server: Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) FrontPage/5.0.2.2623 PHP/4.3.10
4 Last-Modified: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 16:14:07 GMT
5 ETag: "209ff-dea68-3f6736cf"
6 Accept-Ranges: bytes
7 Content-Length: 911976
8 Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100
9 Connection: Keep-Alive
10 Content-Type: video/mp4
^^^

As you can see, the file extension says it's an mpeg (which it is), but
the content-type header says it's an mp4. So any browser that believes
the content-type header will try to play it as an mp4 and barf. (This
explains why it works when you download it first, because then the
information from the content-type header is lost and the (correct) file
extension is used instead.)

I downloaded the pousos.wmv and it ran well. The others either didn't
download or were broken.
As a by the by the pilot earned his money with landing in those
conditions

"Peter Duniho" wrote in
:

Snipola
"MPEG" by itself isn't a format, it's a standards group. The MPEG
formats all have version numbers, and the most common MPEG format found
for online videos is MPEG4 (MPEG1 is out of favor, MPEG2 is the format
used for DVDs and requires non-free decoders to play, and MPEG3 doesn't
really exist in the wild as far as I know).
Snipola

I thought "mp3" was short for "MPEG3"?

Brian
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Just save them to your drive and delete the extra .mp4 extention off
the end. I noticed it too when I grabbed it. I do believe it was
working correctly a couple months ago when I had last hit up his site.

Jim in Rockford MI

"Jay Honeck" wrote

I'm sure whatever screwed up Quicktime's quirks will be addressed and
fixed
soon -- probably at the expense of one of the other video players...

I have only Windows Media Player on my system, and it does everything I ask
it to play; even quicktime formats.
--
Jim in NC