Goose at FL 360????

Darrel Toepfer wrote in news:Qmgbf.13252$td.10696
@bignews3.bellsouth.net:

Skywise wrote:

From the article, "helicopters cannot fly here."

Not anymore!!! Of course, the article was written in 2000 so it
was a valid statement then.

That *record* was reported to be a hoax...

I haven't heard about any other attempts...


Just in case we're not talking about the same thing, I'm referring
to the helicopter that alighted on Mt. Everest that was discussed
in this group some months back.

http://www.mounteverest.net/story/Fr...sUtopiasummit-
VIDEOMay272005.shtml

or http://tinyurl.com/9pf34

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"Darrel Toepfer" wrote in message
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Skywise wrote:

From the article, "helicopters cannot fly here."

Not anymore!!! Of course, the article was written in 2000 so it
was a valid statement then.

That *record* was reported to be a hoax...

I haven't heard about any other attempts...

Those old Grumman's can really fly, can't they?
I wonder if it was converted from round engines to turbines?
You would think ATC would have warned each of the aircraft about
conflicting traffic based on the transponder returns.
Usually, there are two NTSB postings, one for each aircraft, when a
mid-air collision between two aircraft occur. No N-number on the Grumman
Goose?
:-))


Is the following for real or is there a typo?
Geese in Class A airspace???
Allen
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IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: UPS28 Make/Model: B757 Description: B-757
Date: 11/03/2005 Time: 2325

Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Unknown

LOCATION
City: COLORADO SPRINGS State: CO Country: US

DESCRIPTION
ACFT, UPS28, A B757, ENROUTE FROM SDF TO MHR, STRUCK A GOOSE AT FL360.
ACFT DESCENDED TO FL280, DUE TO THE WINDSHIELD BEING CRACKED AND
CONTINUED
ON TO DESTINATION. PILOT DID NOT DECLARE AN EMERGENCY. OVER COLORADO
SPRINGS, CO

INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 4 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
Unk:

WEATHER: NOT REPORTED

OTHER DATA
Activity: Business Phase: Cruise Operation: Air Carrier

In article ,
A Lieberman wrote:

Is the following for real or is there a typo?

Geese in Class A airspace???

Not that surprising. An Alaska Airline 727 took a salmon strike a few
years back.

--
Dale L. Falk

There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing around with airplanes.

http://home.gci.net/~sncdfalk/flying.html

"A Lieberman" wrote in message
.. .
Is the following for real or is there a typo?

Geese in Class A airspace???

Allen
------------

IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: UPS28 Make/Model: B757 Description: B-757
Date: 11/03/2005 Time: 2325

Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Unknown

LOCATION
City: COLORADO SPRINGS State: CO Country: US

DESCRIPTION
ACFT, UPS28, A B757, ENROUTE FROM SDF TO MHR, STRUCK A GOOSE AT FL360.
ACFT DESCENDED TO FL280, DUE TO THE WINDSHIELD BEING CRACKED AND
CONTINUED
ON TO DESTINATION. PILOT DID NOT DECLARE AN EMERGENCY. OVER COLORADO
SPRINGS, CO

INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 4 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
Unk:

WEATHER: NOT REPORTED

OTHER DATA
Activity: Business Phase: Cruise Operation: Air Carrier


No doubt geese ( and some other birds) can fly this high. I read somewhere
the record was 37,900 ft . But my question is why did the aircraft only
descend to FL280? With a cracked windscreen and the risk of
depressurisation wouldnt it have been more prudent to descend to 10,000 ft
and avoid scaring the pax with the oxygen masks dropping out of the roof?.
terry

No doubt geese ( and some other birds) can fly this high. I read
somewhere
the record was 37,900 ft . But my question is why did the aircraft only
descend to FL280? With a cracked windscreen and the risk of
depressurisation wouldnt it have been more prudent to descend to 10,000 ft
and avoid scaring the pax with the oxygen masks dropping out of the
roof?.
terry

It depends on what the aircraft operations manual says... if only the outer
pane is cracked.. descend to xxx altitude... that will depend on the
strength of the inner pane.

BT

d&tm wrote:

DESCRIPTION
ACFT, UPS28,

With a cracked windscreen and the risk of
depressurisation wouldnt it have been more prudent to descend to 10,000 ft
and avoid scaring the pax with the oxygen masks dropping out of the roof?.

It was apparently a UPS A/C (No PAX) and my guess is that the COM
reccommends a descent to FL280 due to a possible cracked outer Window
Pane. Why would you do any more than required by the COM?

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