Amateur night at the field

"Bela P. Havasreti" wrote in message
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On Fri, 12 May 2006 19:11:52 GMT, Orval Fairbairn
wrote:
Reality check: Even if everybody were to use the 45 entry, they wouldn't
all be usinf the same set of references. Some would be a mile away on
downwind, while others would be 1/4 mile away. Then you have a problem!

There is simply no excuse for a three mile "final" in a light aircraft!

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There have been two mid-air collisions near my home-base airport
over the last several decades. Both occurred at the "convergence"
of the entry to the 45 (a popular reporting point for said 45 entry).
My one close call to a mid-air (in 29+ years of flying) also occurred
at the entry to a 45 at a near-by un-controlled field.

http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182100-1.html Pelican's Perch #30:
The 45-Degree Zealots

Orval F wrote:

If you had read my posting completely

I did.

you would have noticed that you ALWAYS check for traffic in the pattern.

I do.

After re-reading Deakin's article on pattern ops (thanks Matt) I've had
to rethink the upwind entry idea. I know the 45 isn't always the best
way, as often times I'll enter on a base or straight in, but always
after announcing my position & intent on CTAF.

There is simply no excuse for a three mile "final" in a light aircraft

Agreed, unless you're in a very busy pattern (been there) or you're
extending downwind for someone 'cause you're a nice guy )

"Kingfish" wrote in message
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Orval F wrote:

If you had read my posting completely

I did.

you would have noticed that you ALWAYS check for traffic in the pattern.


I do.

After re-reading Deakin's article on pattern ops (thanks Matt) I've had
to rethink the upwind entry idea. I know the 45 isn't always the best
way, as often times I'll enter on a base or straight in, but always
after announcing my position & intent on CTAF.

There is simply no excuse for a three mile "final" in a light
aircraft

Agreed, unless you're in a very busy pattern (been there) or you're
extending downwind for someone 'cause you're a nice guy )

....or the tower says, "...extend your downwind, I'll call your base."

...or the tower says, "...extend your downwind, I'll call your base."

That too, but the subject was uncontrolled fields