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  #31  
Old August 9th 06, 12:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
BTIZ
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Default Home Slamming Down Under; Drone Slamming in AZ

VLJs: FAA plan is to put thousands of these into the air, and mix them in
with the old GA fleet. Then, sprinkle in a bunch of basically untrained
LSA pilots. (Read an article in GA news that a company is offering a
program to get an LSA license in a week. Damn: that's less time than it
takes to learn to drive a car!!!)


This is not the FAA PLAN... this is the aviation industry's plan

BT


  #32  
Old August 9th 06, 02:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 17:50:40 -0400, Bob Noel
wrote in
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is this more a serious group or is it also directed at humor?

sry for makin that sound so weird

nitram


Anyone have a caps key and some vowels for nitramwin?


I pointed her to the Netiquette web site. Perhaps she'll get a clue.
This is not one of GoogleGroup's in-house discussion groups; it's
Usenet.

I wonder if she's interested in becoming a pilot?
  #33  
Old August 9th 06, 02:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Fry
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"nitramwin" == nitramwin writes:

nitramwin im still new here but i think ur comment didnt quite
nitramwin make sense

nitramwin could u comment back and tell me what u meant?

nitramwin thanx

Lesson #1. Usenet is not IM. There is no need to use odd word
abbreviations that teeny-boppers like. Please spell out your words in
full. Bonus points for using a spell-checker before posting.
  #34  
Old August 9th 06, 02:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 18:21:52 -0700, Bob Fry
wrote in :

Bonus points for using a spell-checker before posting.


Not to mention using your real name.

  #35  
Old August 9th 06, 07:49 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Grumman-581[_1_]
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On 8 Aug 2006 13:19:28 -0700, "
wrote:
im still new here but i think ur comment didnt quite make sense

could u comment back and tell me what u meant?

thanx


Awh, gee, another of the idiot kids from the text messaging generation
who are too ****in' lazy (or stupid) to be able to spell words
correctly...

Probably just a kid playing on his momma's computer anyway... Thinks
he's a big **** actiing as a troll on newsgroups... Pathetic **** is
more like it...

bitch-slap

plonk

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"Welcome to USENET. Has anyone told you to **** off yet?"
  #36  
Old August 9th 06, 09:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
John Galban
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Newps wrote:

Not the FAA plan. Never was the FAA plan.


Hey Newps,

If you happen to see this, could you drop me an email at:
jgalban(at)cox.net ? Got a question for you.

Thanks

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

  #37  
Old August 10th 06, 02:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 11:45:46 -0400, "Skylune"
wrote in
outaviation.com:

Your "fears" had nothing to do with house slamming.


Very good. Why you should bring up that fact, given the change in
message subject, is puzzling however.

Rather, they had to do with compatibility with GA.


Well done. You're catching on.


What I want to know, is if the "pilot" of the UAV that violated its
ATC clearance will face FAA administrative action? If not, why not?

Will General Atomics have its ability to launch its UAVs in the NAS
revoked until it can assure that its products will not endanger
citizens?

What will it take to get the attention of retired General Kostelnik,
now a bureaucrat, focused on air safety instead of his relationship
with General Atomics? Termination?


Safety precautions

In hearings before the House Aviation Subcommittee in March,
Michael Kostelnik, a retired general who heads Customs and Border
Protection's Air and Marine office, assured lawmakers that the
agency's Predator had robust backup systems to ensure safety.

"This redundant system works on all levels, from sensors to the
flight computer, and provides a triple-check system to protect the
vehicle and others in the airspace," said Kostelnik's written
testimony.

In an interview last week, Kostelnik said the crash about 30 miles
from Nogales had not changed his mind. He and the manufacturer of
the Predator, General Atomics Aeronautical Systems, blame the
pilot of the drone for the accident. He worked for General
Atomics, which flew the Predator under contract with the
government.

The pilot told investigators from the National Transportation
Safety Board (NTSB) that his control panel froze up. When he
switched to a second control station, he didn't notice that it was
set to shut off the plane's fuel. The switch cut off the
Predator's engine.

The drone had been given permission to fly at 14,000 to 16,000
feet, an area that was closed to other planes. After the engine
quit, it drifted until it struck the ground.

John Porter, manager of business development at General Atomics,
defended the control station's design and said the accident did
not reveal any safety issues with the plane. Kostelnik said he
hopes to have a replacement Predator flying soon and the agency
wants to buy additional Predators.

  #38  
Old August 10th 06, 02:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Margy Natalie
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Bob Noel wrote:
In article . com,
" wrote:


thanx for making that clear for me!!!!!!!!!!!!

is this more a serious group or is it also directed at humor?

sry for makin that sound so weird

nitram



Anyone have a caps key and some vowels for nitramwin?

Just what I was thinking!
  #39  
Old August 10th 06, 03:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
john smith
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The real test for UAV's will be the first lawsuit against the
manufacturer and the operator when one kills someone.
  #40  
Old August 10th 06, 07:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Skylune wrote:

Your "fears" had nothing to do with house slamming.

Rather, they had to do with compatibility with GA.


Does anybody have any idea to whom or what he is responding to?


 




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