North Korea's Air Force and The Bomb

NW_Pilot wrote:

I will not believe anything the news media and government tells me about how
bad another country is untill I see it for myself. The U.S. government said
Beirut Lebanon is a bad place and that the "Muslims" all want to kill all
Americans hahahahaha...B.S. Well I walked the streets of Beirut at night for
a few hours alone, myself a non Muslim on a Muslim holiday and nothing but
friendly people even the guys with the machine guns have proper muzzle
control and are friendlier than our police here in the states!!

I suggest that one look and think for themselves and make their own thoughts
and dismiss all the media/government hype! Yes, the government controls the
so called free and independent press and are resorting the "Religious" type
tactics to try and use Fear to control the citizens and rest of the world!

Lots of loons in the northwest.

"cjcampbell" wrote in message
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NW_Pilot wrote:

I will not believe anything the news media and government tells me about
how
bad another country is untill I see it for myself. The U.S. government
said
Beirut Lebanon is a bad place and that the "Muslims" all want to kill all
Americans hahahahaha...B.S. Well I walked the streets of Beirut at night
for
a few hours alone, myself a non Muslim on a Muslim holiday and nothing
but
friendly people even the guys with the machine guns have proper muzzle
control and are friendlier than our police here in the states!!

I suggest that one look and think for themselves and make their own
thoughts
and dismiss all the media/government hype! Yes, the government controls
the
so called free and independent press and are resorting the "Religious"
type
tactics to try and use Fear to control the citizens and rest of the
world!

Lots of loons in the northwest.


Yep, there are a lot of us loons here :-)

NW_Pilot wrote:
"cjcampbell" wrote in message
oups.com...

NW_Pilot wrote:

I will not believe anything the news media and government tells me about
how
bad another country is untill I see it for myself. The U.S. government
said
Beirut Lebanon is a bad place and that the "Muslims" all want to kill all
Americans hahahahaha...B.S. Well I walked the streets of Beirut at night
for
a few hours alone, myself a non Muslim on a Muslim holiday and nothing
but
friendly people even the guys with the machine guns have proper muzzle
control and are friendlier than our police here in the states!!

I suggest that one look and think for themselves and make their own
thoughts
and dismiss all the media/government hype! Yes, the government controls
the
so called free and independent press and are resorting the "Religious"
type
tactics to try and use Fear to control the citizens and rest of the
world!

Lots of loons in the northwest.


Yep, there are a lot of us loons here :-)

I guess that makes us charter members of the Puget Sound Loons. Even if
that does mean that all Dawgs and Cougs are loons.

All 36 airports should have the runways destroyed.
All power plants and switching stations that send power to
their nuclear factories should be bombed, you can't produce
nuke fuel without electricity.
All naval vessels in their harbors should be sunk.
All military depots, ammo dumps and warehouses should be
bombed.


On the second day we can offer the Iranians a deal.




"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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| Since I'm tired of reading questions about the development
of
| anti-matter-powered Beechcraft ejection seats, I thought
I'd toss this
| topic onto the newsgroup's platter: North Korea.
|
| In pondering why we (the US -- and the World) haven't
responded more
| forcefully to the North Korean nuclear tests, which seem
to confirm our
| greatest fears, I found the following tid-bits of
information:
|
| - That tiny country (smaller than the state of
Mississippi) has an air
| force comprised of 1,620 combat aircraft, and 274
helicopters!
| - They've got over 8,800 anti-aircraft guns
| - They're fielding a 1,000,000-man military force, with a
population of
| just 23 million
| - They have just 36 paved-runway airports
| - Their GDP is just $40 billion per year -- far less than
Bill Gates is
| worth, personally.
| - Some of their planes are stationed just 6 minutes'
flight from Seoul
|
| Their pilot training is apparently abyssmal, thanks to
fuel and spare
| parts shortages. (One estimate shows that their pilots
are flying just
| 7 hours per YEAR.) However, they have fielded an
incredible fighting
| force, at the expense of virtually all else. They have
suffered 11
| straight years of food shortages, and are able to feed
themselves only
| because of outside aid -- yet they persist in developing
incredibly
| expensive weapons systems, like missiles and atomic bombs.
|
| In short, these folks are truly, really scary. I honestly
didn't think
| much of them, until recently, but I now fully understand
their "axis of
| evil" designation -- and why we're hesitating to react.
|
| Here are some decent sources of more information:
|
|
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...k/airforce.htm
| https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications...k/geos/kn.html
|
| So what should we do? Nothing? That seems to be the
United Nation's
| current "strategy"...but I don't see much hope in that
approach.
| --
| Jay Honeck
| Iowa City, IA
| Pathfinder N56993
| www.AlexisParkInn.com
| "Your Aviation Destination"
|

No, taking out the power plants will turn off septic system pumps.
Typhoid will spread and we'll have an enormous public health problem.
You need to be more selective.



Jim Macklin wrote:
All 36 airports should have the runways destroyed.
All power plants and switching stations that send power to
their nuclear factories should be bombed, you can't produce
nuke fuel without electricity.
All naval vessels in their harbors should be sunk.
All military depots, ammo dumps and warehouses should be
bombed.


On the second day we can offer the Iranians a deal.

All power plants and switching stations that send power to
their nuclear factories should be bombed

Note that I considered that. NK is so backward, do they
even have a sewage system?



"Stubby" wrote in
message . ..
| No, taking out the power plants will turn off septic
system pumps.
| Typhoid will spread and we'll have an enormous public
health problem.
| You need to be more selective.
|
|
|
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| All 36 airports should have the runways destroyed.
| All power plants and switching stations that send power
to
| their nuclear factories should be bombed, you can't
produce
| nuke fuel without electricity.
| All naval vessels in their harbors should be sunk.
| All military depots, ammo dumps and warehouses should be
| bombed.
|
|
| On the second day we can offer the Iranians a deal.

On Oct 15, 7:23 pm, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
So what should we do? Nothing?

Nuke 'em... Awh, **** it, nuke all those ****in' communists and
socialists... After nuking North Korea, declare plural marriages legal
over there and next thing you know, it will be repopulated by
Mormons...



--
Hmmm... Let's see... Does anyone feel left out in my insults? I can
try to be more inclusive next time...

Jay Honeck wrote:

In pondering why we (the US -- and the World) haven't responded more
forcefully to the North Korean nuclear tests,

in the whole story there are two things that keeps me thinking:

on the one hand, we have the gvt of North Korea who has
every motivation of bluffing the test (easy: big conventional
explosives, and then vent some radioactive material); their
whole nation is bankrupt and they need that kind of attention
both domestically -- great propaganda -- and internationally
(considering the aggressive US foreign policies, I am surprised
that Lichtenstein hasn't started testing nukes yet); on the
other hand we have our gvt who has every reason -- regardless
of the facts -- of pretending to believe the bluff because this
is something scary -- and fear has proved to be an excellent
political tool -- happening with perfect timing (right before
the elections and at an embarrassing time for the party in
power) is the best thing that could happen to them.

May be the rest of the world knows something we don't (twouldn't
be the first time, would it?)

--Sylvain

Jay Honeck wrote:

- That tiny country (smaller than the state of Mississippi) has an air
force comprised of 1,620 combat aircraft, and 274 helicopters!

You know Jay, since neither Petersen or EAA can sell them the autogas
STC due to the U.N. sanction, most of their airforce are kind of
grounded because they can afford the fuel anymore!

Jay Honeck wrote:
Since I'm tired of reading questions about the development of
anti-matter-powered Beechcraft ejection seats, I thought I'd toss this
topic onto the newsgroup's platter: North Korea.

Well, I am physically a lot closer to North Korea than you guys, and I
refuse to worry about it.

North Korea has had the bomb since the early '90s. The sixth Pakistan
test in 1994 was actually on contract for North Korea and was conducted
almost immediately after the US had extracted an agreement (in return
for a huge amount of tribute) that North Korea would stop developing
nuclear weapons.

So, really, all this is about is North Korea demanding more money to
prop up its totalitarian regime, "or we won't play nice any more."
Actually using a nuke or selling one to a terrorist group to use would
immediately result in the whole of North Korea being reduced to slag,
and they know it. Neither the US nor any other country attacked in this
manner would wait for a UN Security Council resolution. The North
Koreans would be gone, and that would be it.

As for their flight training, it is said to be awful and there are a
lot of accidents.

So far, North Korea has a series of rocket tests, with a very high
failure rate, and one atomic test that fizzled. Sounds to me like the
most North Korea's WMD scientists have to fear is their own government.