IFR in the Eastern Mountains

HSP is only about 50 miles from me... I've been there a number of times.
If
you're looking to look at the leaves, you're already kinda late. The
higher
elevations around here are pretty much already changed and dropped. The
runway is
great, long, and wide, but there *are* some pretty hazardous air currents
right off
the end of the runway. (Basically right off the end of the runway is a
cliff that
drops probably at least 1000'... supposedly a few airplane wrecks can be
found down
there).

Rules of the "mountains" here seem to be similar to out west, only
less-so.
Density altitude can make a mess of you. Turbulence, lift, and sink can
be a problem
in windy conditions (especially this time of year). Don't push the
aircraft
performance envelope, and don't do anything stupid while clearing ridges
and you'll be
fine. ... a good example of stupid would be coming in slow at HSP where
you're very
likely to get sink off the end of the runway. Plenty of runway, so keep
it fast.


Great advice...thanks so much.

Kobra

Look at this Kobra:

http://tinyurl.com/y78c8s

Note that it is clear and visibility is 50+ miles.

Ron Lee

Ron Lee wrote:
Look at this Kobra:

http://tinyurl.com/y78c8s

Note that it is clear and visibility is 50+ miles.


Where is it?



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

Looks like a couple of places in Western Montana...Paradise Valley or
Bozeman??
Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
Ron Lee wrote:
Look at this Kobra:

http://tinyurl.com/y78c8s

Note that it is clear and visibility is 50+ miles.


Where is it?



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

"skym" wrote in message
oups.com...
Looks like a couple of places in Western Montana...Paradise Valley or
Bozeman??
Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
Ron Lee wrote:
Look at this Kobra:

http://tinyurl.com/y78c8s

Note that it is clear and visibility is 50+ miles.


Where is it?

Leadville, CO

"Matt Barrow" wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/y78c8s

Note that it is clear and visibility is 50+ miles.

Where is it?

Leadville, CO


Matt is correct. This pic is about 10 miles south of Leadville heading
north.

Ron Lee

The subject line made me laugh. I'm from out West. When I took my kids
to Mt Vernon, they asked me "Dad, why do they call it 'Mt'?". "See
that little hill over there?...". We often top moutains over 14,000.
-Robert

There are as many dead pilots from hitting steeply rising
terrain from Georgia to Maine as die west of Denver. There
are also a lot of flat landers who die in Arkansas. It
isn't the altitude, it is the suddenness of the mountain and
whether the pilot is really thinking about it being a hump,
ridge, hill or mountain?

If you hit a granite rock at 3,000 feet MSL or at 14,000
feet you'll still be in a lot of trouble.


"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
ups.com...
| The subject line made me laugh. I'm from out West. When I
took my kids
| to Mt Vernon, they asked me "Dad, why do they call it
'Mt'?". "See
| that little hill over there?...". We often top moutains
over 14,000.
| -Robert
|

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Macklin [mailto Posted At: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:10 PM
Posted To: rec.aviation.ifr
Conversation: IFR in the Eastern Mountains
Subject: IFR in the Eastern Mountains

... are also a lot of flat landers who die in Arkansas.


I don't remember exactly when, but in the '70s or early '80s PGO just
West of KMEZ was renamed from Page VOR to Rich Mountain VOR. A voice
message was added to the Morse identifier -- Caution, rapidly rising
terrain... The identifier remained the same however.

This was specifically in response to the growing aluminum content on the
Southern slope of that hill. The terrain to the South is relatively flat
and then all of a sudden the Kiamichi Mountains jump almost straight up
in a very short lateral distance. We never thought about it because
traveling from the North you already had to account for the Ozarks and
the Boston Mountains; Rich was just one more hill to cross.

I was in Mena last Saturday and had a chance to fly over that terrain
for the first time in about 20 years. It still looks like hills, and at
this time of year - beautiful hills.

I remember that the name change happened while I was in
Tulsa attending Spartan, mid 70s.




"Jim Carter" wrote in message
news:001a01c6ffa0$d7da0e40$4001a8c0@omnibook6100.. .
|
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: Jim Macklin
[mailto | Posted At: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:10 PM
| Posted To: rec.aviation.ifr
| Conversation: IFR in the Eastern Mountains
| Subject: IFR in the Eastern Mountains
|
| ... are also a lot of flat landers who die in Arkansas.
|
|
| I don't remember exactly when, but in the '70s or early
'80s PGO just
| West of KMEZ was renamed from Page VOR to Rich Mountain
VOR. A voice
| message was added to the Morse identifier -- Caution,
rapidly rising
| terrain... The identifier remained the same however.
|
| This was specifically in response to the growing aluminum
content on the
| Southern slope of that hill. The terrain to the South is
relatively flat
| and then all of a sudden the Kiamichi Mountains jump
almost straight up
| in a very short lateral distance. We never thought about
it because
| traveling from the North you already had to account for
the Ozarks and
| the Boston Mountains; Rich was just one more hill to
cross.
|
| I was in Mena last Saturday and had a chance to fly over
that terrain
| for the first time in about 20 years. It still looks like
hills, and at
| this time of year - beautiful hills.
|