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Is it possible to switch from VFR to IFR and back?



 
 
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Old November 25th 06, 01:19 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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On 11/24/06 16:48, B A R R Y wrote:
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 15:46:10 -0800, Mark Hansen
wrote:

These are available for free from the FAA web site.


I forgot all about the free online version!

I like to write in, sticker tab, and highlight text books. For $14
for a pretty printed and bound copy, it isn't worth my printer time.
G


Me too, but someone mentioned that they couldn't afford a few bucks to
buy a book and the on line version makes a good alternative.


I know someone outside of Usenet who will like this, so THANKS!


Hey, no problem ;-)

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Old November 25th 06, 01:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Christopher Brian Colohan writes:

That is probably because the book is designed as supplement to IFR
training, and not as a substitute for it.


A promotional book isn't a very good supplement to any kind of
training.

The FAA publishes other books that are very informative. If it can
produce such books for VFR, which lends itself far less to book
learning, it can certainly do so for IFR. I just haven't been able to
find the right book, I think.

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Old November 25th 06, 01:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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B A R R Y writes:

Try "The Instrument Flying Handbook", it's ~ $14US @ amazon.com.


I'm unable to buy stuff. Can it be downloaded from the FAA site?

While you're at it, pick up "The Airplane Flying Handbook."


That one I have. A nice book.

I think I may have found the right book: is it FAA-H-8083-15?

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Old November 25th 06, 01:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Mark Hansen writes:

and here is the Instrument Flying Handbook:

http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/aviation/instrument_flying_handbook


OK, I think I have it now. I've already downloaded the other two.

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Old November 25th 06, 02:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Roger (K8RI) writes:

It is, but the weather can be beautiful VMC and you can still "air
file" IFR. *Sometimes* IFR makes it easier through some areas and
*sometimes* going VFR can save a lot of aggrivation.


It seems--at least in simulation--that instrument flight in VFR can be
handy for flights that are of non-trivial length. You can look at the
scenery more, and relax a bit when scanning instruments. And you can
spend more time looking for traffic.

I find that some flight are just plain easier to file the whole thing
IFR, particularly out here in the open country where you can ask,
expect, and receive a direct clearance.


But once you are IFR, you can't just turn to sightsee in an area that
interests you without ATC approval, right?

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Old November 25th 06, 02:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Mxsmanic wrote:

I'm unable to buy stuff. Can it be downloaded from the FAA site?


No offense, but if you can't afford a $15 book, maybe you should stop
wasting time playing computer games, and spend more time earning money,
or developing the skills to earn more money.


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Old November 25th 06, 02:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jim Logajan wrote:

Still not a complete list. :-)


Here's a quote from the local newspaper. I kid you not.

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Old November 25th 06, 03:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Mark Hansen wrote in news:12mf6ht5gng7e47
@corp.supernews.com:

Me too, but someone mentioned that they couldn't afford a few bucks to
buy a book and the on line version makes a good alternative.


and that said mention someone won't read the sites anyway since he said
previously he wanted pilots experiences.....

Allen
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Old November 25th 06, 03:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Chris W" wrote

No offense, but if you can't afford a $15 book, maybe you should stop
wasting time playing computer games, and spend more time earning money,
or developing the skills to earn more money.


That is far from a new suggestion. It has been made at least a dozen times.
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Old November 25th 06, 03:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Mxsmanic" wrote

It seems--at least in simulation--that instrument flight in VFR can be
handy for flights that are of non-trivial length. You can look at the
scenery more, and relax a bit when scanning instruments. And you can
spend more time looking for traffic.


And this is something you need to tell us here, ....Why? Why do you think we
care? This is a group for student PILOTS, not simulator game pretend pilots.

Looking at scenery on a game is far from reality. You need help, man.

But once you are IFR, you can't just turn to sightsee in an area that
interests you without ATC approval, right?


Why do you care on a simulator game? Are you afraid you are going to get a call
from the simulated air traffic controller, and get a simulated suspension, or
fine?

Get a grip on reality. Seek help. Start by putting your computer away, and
participate in the real world.
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