Drunk pilots

Dudley Henriques wrote:
"A Lieberma" wrote in message
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Mxsmanic wrote in
:

If an aircraft is taxiing out from the ramp and controllers notice

PLEASE, PLEASE DON'T FEED THE TROLL.

This question is easily researchable and doesn't require real pilots
experiences.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Allen

Absolutely researchable. All you have to do is remember the fighter pilot's
golden rule on drinking and flying.
"NEVER drink and fly!!! Pull off the taxiway as you're on the way out to the
runway and drink, THEN go fly!!!"
:-)))))))
Dudley Henriques

And, when I was flying KC135's, we rigidly adhered to the rule: "No
smoking 8 hours before flying, and no drinking closer than 80 feet from
the aircraft."

That rule made us better at the job we did. I think.

--Walt

Scott Post wrote:
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Walt wrote:

Scott Post wrote:

Wife and I flew a Cub from Kokomo to Noblesville yesterday with a
stiff South wind. Made 37 knots ground speed down, 92 back. Woulda
been faster to drive, but not nearly as fun.


You live in Kokomo? In the '70's I flew KC135's out of Grissom AFB. We
lived in Cassville, about halfway between Kokomo and Grissom.


My wife's parents will be coming to visit after xmas. I'm hoping the
weather cooperates and I can take my father-in-law for a spin in the Cub
or Champ. He'll get a kick out of overflying Grissom if they have the
tankers out on the ramp.

--
Scott Post

Cool. Have fun. I didn't realize there were still 135's there. When I
left the National Guard was flying A-37's and they were talking about
shutting down the base. But, I've been out of the loop for the last 30
years or so. :)

--Walt

Hi Walt;

It's indeed a fairly little known fact outside the military aviation
community that we who flew the "smaller" though somewhat "faster" bits of
Plexiglas and aluminum learned all our REAL bad habits from you multi guys!!
:-))))
Dudley

"Walt" wrote in message
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Dudley Henriques wrote:
"A Lieberma" wrote in message
. 18...
Mxsmanic wrote in
:

If an aircraft is taxiing out from the ramp and controllers notice

PLEASE, PLEASE DON'T FEED THE TROLL.

This question is easily researchable and doesn't require real pilots
experiences.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Allen

Absolutely researchable. All you have to do is remember the fighter
pilot's
golden rule on drinking and flying.
"NEVER drink and fly!!! Pull off the taxiway as you're on the way out to
the
runway and drink, THEN go fly!!!"
:-)))))))
Dudley Henriques

And, when I was flying KC135's, we rigidly adhered to the rule: "No
smoking 8 hours before flying, and no drinking closer than 80 feet from
the aircraft."

That rule made us better at the job we did. I think.

--Walt

DAMN--that all sounds SO familiar!!! :-))))))))

Walt, are you SURE you never flew helicopter gunships in Vietnam??? Sounds
like one of our old rules. :-)))))

Paul


"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...
Hi Walt;

It's indeed a fairly little known fact outside the military aviation
community that we who flew the "smaller" though somewhat "faster" bits of
Plexiglas and aluminum learned all our REAL bad habits from you multi
guys!!
:-))))
Dudley

"Walt" wrote in message
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Dudley Henriques wrote:
"A Lieberma" wrote in message
. 18...
Mxsmanic wrote in
:

If an aircraft is taxiing out from the ramp and controllers notice

PLEASE, PLEASE DON'T FEED THE TROLL.

This question is easily researchable and doesn't require real pilots
experiences.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Allen

Absolutely researchable. All you have to do is remember the fighter
pilot's
golden rule on drinking and flying.
"NEVER drink and fly!!! Pull off the taxiway as you're on the way out to
the
runway and drink, THEN go fly!!!"
:-)))))))
Dudley Henriques

And, when I was flying KC135's, we rigidly adhered to the rule: "No
smoking 8 hours before flying, and no drinking closer than 80 feet from
the aircraft."

That rule made us better at the job we did. I think.

--Walt

"A Lieberma" wrote in message
. 18...
"Jim Macklin" wrote in
:

I prefer the solid ground for night sky viewing.

Fully understand this!

I've got a
place with no nearby light pollution, millions more stars
are visible. One clear night a few years ago, there was
snow cover but no clouds at all, I was out driving by the
airport and wondered why they had the strobes running, then
I realized it was a meteor storm, the flashes were so bright
they were casting shadows on the snow and leaving smoke
trails in the sky.

Let me guess, the Leonids? One night flight home, saw a "fireball".
Scared the bejeebers outta me it was so bright. And like you saw, smoke
trail followed it. At first, thought it was a plane blowing up, but
having seen meteors before, I knew better just from the speed, length and
angle of the flash. More lights upstairs then downstairs on most of my
night flights :-))
...

I saw what must have been a good sized chunk of space junk once - It was
quite a show - went nearly from horizon to horizon as it broke up into
smaller bits...

--
Geoff
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Good to hear, Dudley. It's good to know that when you guys were behind
us, hooked up, that we were not just passing on fuel but some of our
core values too.

:)

--Walt


Dudley Henriques wrote:
Hi Walt;

It's indeed a fairly little known fact outside the military aviation
community that we who flew the "smaller" though somewhat "faster" bits of
Plexiglas and aluminum learned all our REAL bad habits from you multi guys!!
:-))))
Dudley

"Walt" wrote in message
ups.com...

Dudley Henriques wrote:
"A Lieberma" wrote in message
. 18...
Mxsmanic wrote in
:

If an aircraft is taxiing out from the ramp and controllers notice

PLEASE, PLEASE DON'T FEED THE TROLL.

This question is easily researchable and doesn't require real pilots
experiences.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Allen

Absolutely researchable. All you have to do is remember the fighter
pilot's
golden rule on drinking and flying.
"NEVER drink and fly!!! Pull off the taxiway as you're on the way out to
the
runway and drink, THEN go fly!!!"
:-)))))))
Dudley Henriques

And, when I was flying KC135's, we rigidly adhered to the rule: "No
smoking 8 hours before flying, and no drinking closer than 80 feet from
the aircraft."

That rule made us better at the job we did. I think.

--Walt

I recall a few years ago at Davis Monthan when within a few minutes after
entering the club, there was a food fight in progress and wrestling going on
the floor. Later in the evening I offered to buy one of the pilots a shot if
he would let me drop a live mark 84 (2000 lb) bomb on the range in the
morning.

He said: "sure doc, no problem". Unfortunately, there was a staff pilot
weenie (mutually disliked by all of the pilots) who ratted me out. I have
never seen so many memos generated in such a short amount of time! I had to
promise to never drop live ordinance again. However, I did not promise to
forego firing the vulcan canon or launching missiles.

I rode in the back with the same weenie on a six ship, and he was 20 miles
into the range before I asked him whether we were cleared, as a gentle
reminder in true CRM style (which we were not, and the range was still hot).
He blustered his way in while the previous guys exited, but that became
another bar story.

Bottom line: breathing 100 percent oxygen under positive pressure really
helps a hangover.

"A Lieberma" wrote in message
. 18...
"Jim Macklin" wrote in
:

I prefer the solid ground for night sky viewing.

Fully understand this!

I've got a
place with no nearby light pollution, millions more stars
are visible. One clear night a few years ago, there was
snow cover but no clouds at all, I was out driving by the
airport and wondered why they had the strobes running, then
I realized it was a meteor storm, the flashes were so bright
they were casting shadows on the snow and leaving smoke
trails in the sky.

Let me guess, the Leonids? One night flight home, saw a "fireball".
Scared the bejeebers outta me it was so bright. And like you saw, smoke
trail followed it. At first, thought it was a plane blowing up, but
having seen meteors before, I knew better just from the speed, length and
angle of the flash. More lights upstairs then downstairs on most of my
night flights :-))

It was late at night, so I stayed out several hours
watching. I made just one mistake, I told my wife about it.
She was tired and had to get up to go to her college class.
I thought she would not want to be disturbed. I told her
and she has never forgiven me.

Yep, though different situation here, it was the Northern lights. Woke
my wife up at 2 a.m. and it was -15F, but she didn't regret it! Would
love to see that from 5000 feet!

I was kinda hoping the sunspot causing the radiation commotion would have
kept up so it would kick up some northern lights, but that simmered down.
Wouuldn't have been good for the GPS network though I'd suspect?

Allen

I have seen the Space Station go over from 5500' in a Cessna 172. That
was pretty neat, it looked different than on the ground, as you had more
hozion and it seemed you see it "arc" more as it went across the sky. Saw
it when me and my instructor did our night x-country from Boeing Field to
Port Angeles, Wa, and back. Saw it on the return leg. :-) Unfortunately
the 172 doesn't have a power setting that will keep up with it. :-)

Paul Riley wrote:
DAMN--that all sounds SO familiar!!! :-))))))))

Walt, are you SURE you never flew helicopter gunships in Vietnam??? Sounds
like one of our old rules. :-)))))

Paul

Nope, fixed-wing, AC119K. But we tried desperately to be as crazy as
you guys were.

:)

--Walt

Walt wrote:

Newps wrote:

Walt wrote:



Yeah, being a Bobcat fan I've always found Missoula to be a pretty
dreary place. :)

Geez, that's like being a Detroit Lions fan.




Fun place to fly into though if you're coming from Bozeman. Just follow
I-90, skim the hills just east of town, fly over Grizzlie Stadium, and
you're set up for a straight-in to 29 at KMSO. With tower approval, of
course.

They are non FAA and not too sharp.


Gallatin Field is a contract tower too.



Ameriflight, which has a base here, runs a lot of cargo and go into BZN
every day. They say, bar none, the BZN controllers are the worst. The
city fathers are installing a radar there, should be up and ready to go
next spring/summer. We hope to be working it from here at BIL.
Otherwise Salt Lake Center will get it and you guys won't notice one
iotas difference.