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Old January 9th 07, 02:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.piloting
Typhoon502
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Kyle Boatright wrote:

The GPS started giving believable information, and things were right with
the world again.

It all proves that even a GPS isn't a good substitute for maintaining
situational awareness.


My satnav is configured to give me a dot indicating the actual GPS
placement along with the directional arrow that the system software
snaps to the road that it thinks you're on (this is how most car
systems work), and you'd be surprised at how often the map data isn't
quite correct. A section of Rt. 50 in DC Metro is mapped offset
probably 100 feet from where the road actually is, for example...my nav
would show me on the wrong side of the divided 6-lane for about 1/4
mile or so.

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Old January 9th 07, 02:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Typhoon502" writes:
My satnav is configured to give me a dot indicating the actual GPS
placement along with the directional arrow that the system software
snaps to the road that it thinks you're on (this is how most car
systems work), and you'd be surprised at how often the map data isn't
quite correct. A section of Rt. 50 in DC Metro is mapped offset
probably 100 feet from where the road actually is, for example...my nav
would show me on the wrong side of the divided 6-lane for about 1/4
mile or so.


I drove up to Prince Edward Island over the holidays. For the first
10km or so of driving over the Confederation bridge my GPS was
convinced I had turned my car into a boat and was driving through the
Atlantic ocean about 1km west of the bridge... It was quite amusing
to watch. (And no, it was not a temporary glitch -- I saw the same
error on the return trip.)

Chris
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Old January 9th 07, 03:10 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
GeorgeC
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Someone ask Davy Crockett if he had ever been lost?
Davy said "Nope I've never been lost, but I was a mite confused for about two
weeks."

On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:53:38 -0500, "Dudley Henriques"
wrote:


I've NEVER been lost. I've been "temporarily disoriented", but NEVER
lost!!!!! :-))))
Dudley Henriques



GeorgeC
  #34  
Old January 9th 07, 03:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Danny Deger" wrote in message
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Post your lost story here, so we can all laugh at them.


Here is my second lost story:

I was cross country in the heart land of America in my trusty Taylorcraft.
I was using pilotage and dead reckoning. I got site of an east/west road
that ran about 3 miles south of my refueling stop. My destination was just
on the other side of the next sectional map, so I put down the one I was
currently using. I didn't need it anymore, I could just follow the road.

I spotted my airport, so I landed and refueled. I got back in the plane and
took off heading east.

In about 10 miles I spotted an airport that was about 3 miles north of the
east west road. Unfortunally there was no airport in the map. I became
concerned and started to rectify the situation. For some reason, I looked
at the sectional I had just left and noticed an airport about 3 miles north
of the east west road. This airport was about 5 miles from the east edge of
the map and had a single north/south runway, just like the airport I had
just "left".

It suddenly occurred to me that I had landed at the wrong airport, bought
gas, filed a flight plan, checked weather, etc. and didn't know I was
"lost". It was only after I was airborne that I realized I had landed at
the wrong airport. Man did I feel stupid.

Danny Deger


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Old January 9th 07, 03:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote in message
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Dudley Henriques wrote:
I've NEVER been lost. I've been "temporarily disoriented", but NEVER
lost!!!!! :-))))




I wish I could say the same. I've been LOST.

When I was a brand new pilot, I did a night VFR flight from Rock Hill, SC
to Wilmington, NC... at least that was where I wanted to go. Having very
little TT (less than 100 hours), I navigated the same as I did in daytime
VFR. At least I thought I did.

Basically you just flew at about 100 degrees until you got to Laurinburg,
then turned another 10 degrees or so to fly down the railroad tracks
until you got to Wilmington. What I hadn't figured was that most small
towns look pretty much the same at night and I couldn't see the damned
tracks.

Anyway, I got to where I thought I should call Wilmington Approach to
report I was inbound for landing and said that I was about 25 miles to
the west of the airport. They gave me a squawk code and then radar
identified me.... about 18 miles EAST of the airport. The next landfall
would be the island of Bermuda.

Rather than test my swimming abilities to the max, I chose to take their
offer of radar vectors to the airport.

Embarassing, to say the least. I never again navigated by pilotage and
/or dead recconing at night again. From then on it was radio navigation
for me at night.


I was just kidding Mort; Like everybody else out here I've pulled my share
of boners along the way to be sure :-)))
Dudley Henrique


I've NEVER been lost. I've been "temporarily disoriented", but NEVER
lost!!!!! :-))))





I beleive the original quote belongs to Daniel Boone

can't say as ever I was lost,
but I was bewildered once for three days.






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Old January 9th 07, 04:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.piloting
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Dave Kearton wrote:
Crash Lander wrote:
"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message
I had an old friend who had been a UPT student of mine, come through
Holloman for a fast jet requal after a staff job. He'd been a
**Raven** and was generally **crazy**, but a good aviator.

Sorry, but I can't resist. Does this make him a "Raven lunatic"?
Oz/Crash Lander




No, but if a nun starts sleepwalking, she's a roamin' Catholic.



The pope says it's OK to kiss nuns as long as you don't get into the habit.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old January 9th 07, 06:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
Danny Deger wrote:
Post your lost story here, so we can all laugh at them.


On my long cross country (Aertz (Lafayette, IN) to Springfield, IL
to Lawerenceville, IN), on the Springfield to Lawerenceville leg,
I applied the magentic variation wrong. It should have been +3
and I did -3 (or something like that, it has been 15 years).
Since I was close to on course, I made my first few checkpoints,
but after awhile, the few landmarks that exist in that area weren't
matching up with the charts. I happened to fly over an airport
with multiple runways, and comparing the layout to airports on the
chart, was able to figure out where I was.

And then on the Lawernceville to Aertz leg, I had a NMAC with a
bizjet at 10,500ft. Lots of learning on that one flight.

John
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John Clear - http://www.clear-prop.org/

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Old January 9th 07, 10:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.piloting
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Danny Deger wrote:
Post your lost story here, so we can all laugh at them.

My first one is "The lake that shouldn't be there". I was flying from north
of the Dallas/Fort Worth area to my home port of Luck Field which is south
of Fort Worth. No radios of any type in my little Taylorcraft. All was
well. A nice day with reasonable visibility. Some haze but strong VFR.

About halfway to Dallas I come over a lake. A big lake. One that would be
HUGE on my sectional. It was not on the map. I had just been flying for
about 45 minutes on a magnetic heading and keeping close track of time.
There was NO way this lake could be on the ground but not on my map. The
vis was such I couldn't see the buildings of Dallas or Fort Worth. I was
convinced somehow I had gotten lost. I thought maybe the compass was stuck
on the wrong heading. I did a couple of small turns to see if the compass
moved. The compass passed this test.

But my training kicked in -- if in doubt, fly the heading needed and keep
track of time. I did this. After about 20 minutes I got to another lake
and this one was on the map. I was on course.

It turns out my mystery lake was new and not on the maps yet. My map was
current. I swear it was. I never use out of date maps. That's my story
and I am sticking to it :-)

Anyway I was where I thought I was, but very concerned for a while when I
saw that damned lake under me that wasn't supposed to be there.

What is your favorite "lost" story?

Danny Deger


Not lost but terrain avoidance of a sort...

RAF Shackleton on a long transit flight - point A to point B - straight
line - Very bored Navigator.

Nav has some lunch.

Course alteration 90 deg Port

Course alteration 90 deg Starboard

Course alteration 90 deg Starboard

Course alteration 90 deg Port

The Log entry read 'altered course to avoid baked bean'

guy

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Old January 9th 07, 12:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Danny Deger" wrote in message
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"Danny Deger" wrote in message
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Post your lost story here, so we can all laugh at them.


Here is my second lost story:

.. Man did I feel stupid.

Danny Deger


"Feel"?




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Old January 9th 07, 01:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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"John Clear" wrote in message
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In article ,
Danny Deger wrote:
Post your lost story here, so we can all laugh at them.


On my long cross country (Aertz (Lafayette, IN) to Springfield, IL
to Lawerenceville, IN), on the Springfield to Lawerenceville leg,
I applied the magentic variation wrong. It should have been +3
and I did -3 (or something like that, it has been 15 years).
Since I was close to on course, I made my first few checkpoints,
but after awhile, the few landmarks that exist in that area weren't
matching up with the charts. I happened to fly over an airport
with multiple runways, and comparing the layout to airports on the
chart, was able to figure out where I was.

And then on the Lawernceville to Aertz leg, I had a NMAC with a
bizjet at 10,500ft. Lots of learning on that one flight.

John
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John Clear - http://www.clear-prop.org/



Lost story of a somewhat more serious nature. In 1981 a Cessna 210 with 5
POB was lost in bad weather over land ( thick forest) in Australia, never
to be seen again, despite regular searches to this day. I believe it is
the only aircraft lost on land in Aus never to be found. There was another
case of an aircraft lost for 30 odd years and found by a forest worker on
the side of a mountain. I know several aircraft have gone missing without
trace in New Zealand. What about the USA? any dissapeared definately over
land without trace? It is hard to imagine in this day and age that this can
still happen. Over water i can understantd
terry
ppl downunder


 




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