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Jim Macklin wrote:
Understand that bolts used in aircraft construction are not "hardware store" items. The steel and the tolerances for aircraft grade fasteners are better than hardware store Grade 8 bolts. Beech uses bolts in tension to hold the wing on the Bonanza, Baron and King Air models. When there is a crash, the bolts are rarely broken. But if the bolts are not properly installed and maintained, corrosion can weaken the bolts causing them to break. Cessna uses a bolt installed in shear through fittings like you fingers meshed. This is called "double shear" and as long as the bolt is a snug fit in the hole the bolt can hold more load than the airplane is designed to experience. But a bolt in tension is stronger than a bolt in shear. "george" wrote in message ups.com... | | Bill Watson wrote: | | The more you know the more you can do. | | Nothing like assembling a sailplane, loading it full of water and | bombing down a ridge at red-line for a few hours. | | Then you just pull the wings and tail back off and trailer it home. | | the size of those pins/bolts that hold the wings on should attract the | attention of any pilot not used to rigging sailpanes :-) | Here's a good illustration/animation on "double shear" connections: http://www.ijee.dit.ie/OnlinePapers/...ted_double.htm -- Mike |
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Matt Whiting wrote:
Jose wrote: I'd have to pull out my AISC manual to be sure, but I believe that a bolt in double shear has more capacity than in tension. If you are comparing single shear to tension, then I agree with you. What is "double shear" and "single shear"? It refers to the number of planes in shear. Think of the rivet in a scissors. There is one shear plane where the two halves of the scissors meet and are held together by the pin/rivet. Now think of a sandwich of three pieces of metal held together with a bolt or pin or rivet. There are now two planes that are in shear and thus you have twice as much shear resistance of the outer two pieces of metal are pulled one direction and the middle piece is pulled another direction. Matt Here's a good illustration/animation: http://www.ijee.dit.ie/OnlinePapers/...ted_double.htm -- Mike |
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Here's a good illustration/animation on "double shear" connections:
http://www.ijee.dit.ie/OnlinePapers/...ted_double.htm Thanks. It's a way to spread the shear load. Jose -- He who laughs, lasts. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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![]() Matt Whiting wrote: Cessna uses a bolt installed in shear through fittings like you fingers meshed. This is called "double shear" and as long as the bolt is a snug fit in the hole the bolt can hold more load than the airplane is designed to experience. But a bolt in tension is stronger than a bolt in shear. I'd have to pull out my AISC manual to be sure, but I believe that a bolt in double shear has more capacity than in tension. If you are comparing single shear to tension, then I agree with you. Matt That's right. The 70% figure refers to single shear. I made a mistake on the Grade 8 bolt head marking. It has six radial marks, not five. Five is a Grade 7, not a common bolt. The grades go clear to Grade 16, IIRC. Dan |
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![]() Robert M. Gary wrote: wrote: Robert M. Gary wrote: Last summer, Texas/Louisiana neighborhood, I think. The details were in the story, not the time and place. The only Mooney fatal I could find in the SE last summer was this one http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...31X01061&key=1 Perhaps that's the one?? The report is only preliminary but doesn't mention whether the pilot was with the aircraft or not. -Robert That's likely it. The report gives no details whatever of the condition of the wreckage; perhaps that's forthcoming. Dan |
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Aircraft grade bolt have many standards, more to do with
heat-treating and plating and tolerances on the thread and shank fit and finish. Aircraft hardware is a detailed study all to itself. wrote in message oups.com... | | Matt Whiting wrote: | | | Cessna uses a bolt installed in shear through fittings like | you fingers meshed. This is called "double shear" and as | long as the bolt is a snug fit in the hole the bolt can hold | more load than the airplane is designed to experience. | But a bolt in tension is stronger than a bolt in shear. | | I'd have to pull out my AISC manual to be sure, but I believe that a | bolt in double shear has more capacity than in tension. If you are | comparing single shear to tension, then I agree with you. | | Matt | | That's right. The 70% figure refers to single shear. | | I made a mistake on the Grade 8 bolt head marking. It has six | radial marks, not five. Five is a Grade 7, not a common bolt. The | grades go clear to Grade 16, IIRC. | | Dan | |
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![]() Jim Macklin wrote: Understand that bolts used in aircraft construction are not "hardware store" items. The steel and the tolerances for aircraft grade fasteners are better than hardware store Grade 8 bolts. Beech uses bolts in tension to hold the wing on the Bonanza, Baron and King Air models. When there is a crash, the bolts are rarely broken. Well, Beech used to use bolt in tension on the King Air. But a bunch of them had their wings fall off. Now they use bolts in shear. Karl N185KG |
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I have not looked at a recent King Air, but I think that
they still use the traditional Beech bath-tub fitting and tension bolts. "karl gruber" wrote in message ... | | Jim Macklin wrote: | Understand that bolts used in aircraft construction are not "hardware | store" items. The steel and the tolerances for aircraft grade fasteners | are better than hardware store Grade 8 bolts. Beech uses bolts in | tension to hold the wing on the Bonanza, Baron and King Air models. When | there is a crash, the bolts are rarely broken. | | Well, Beech used to use bolt in tension on the King Air. But a bunch of them | had their wings fall off. | | Now they use bolts in shear. | | Karl | N185KG | | |
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