Crash at MYF today....

Mxsmanic wrote:


You might be surprised by how many people could not make that climb,
even many who are decades younger than 87. I know a lot of people who
cannot walk a mile on level ground without huffing and puffing. Many
of them are fat, but many others are just in such poor condition that
they cannot tolerate the relative workout of a brief walk.


I've know people who can't stand at sea level or get out of bed. I've
known people who are now dead. So what! As I said in so many words, I
admire this 87 year old for being able to do it.

RomeoMike writes:

I've know people who can't stand at sea level or get out of bed. I've
known people who are now dead. So what! As I said in so many words, I
admire this 87 year old for being able to do it.

He has probably taken good care of himself, although luck and genes
also play a role.

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Mxsmanic wrote:


He has probably taken good care of himself, although luck and genes
also play a role.

For once I actually agree with you. I would add that to take that short
climb he also needed a desire to experience life and not just sit on his
ass, as so many do.

On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 01:20:39 GMT, A Guy Called Tyketto
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I was about to shoot the approach into MYF when they closed the field this morning.

When I did get to land there was a very broken C-182 on the side of Runway 23.

Any word on what happened?

Paul

This should help you.

http://www.kfmb.com/story.php?id=76584

The LiveATC feed for that area is down, so there's nothing in
the archives for it, and the SNA feed is too far north. But that
article should help.

Not that it should be a factor, but I do wonder about the age
of the pilot.. How old does the general public think is too old to fly?

Don't know about that but we had a 30 year old put shoulders in the
wings of a 172 like that, but remained conscious and helped pull it
off the runway.


BL.
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 01:46:41 +0000 (UTC),
(John Clear) wrote:

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A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:

Not that it should be a factor, but I do wonder about the age
of the pilot.. How old does the general public think is too old to fly?


We discussed pilot age on the internal newsgroups of my ISP after
Scott Crossfield's crash, and the general feeling was he was too
old to fly.

The general feeling was "They let 84-year-olds pilot planes?" No
specific age cut off was mentioned, but other then Crossfield/Hoover
types, the general feeling was 80+ was too old.

That really shows those in the discussion lack an understanding of the
system. I know 80 year olds I'd be glad to fly with and 30 some year
old instructors I won't get in a plane with.

The "Odds" are at 80 those unfit to fly are not going to pass the
physical.

If they can pass the physical and have no impairments they should be
fine to fly.


John
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

RomeoMike wrote:


Margy Natalie wrote:

I know some very young and fit 80 year olds and some very old 60 year
olds. I don't think age is a good predictor of anything. My father
climb Mt Vesuvius at 87 or so, my mother 20 years younger stayed at
the bottom.

Margy



As someone who is getting older, I agree wholeheartedly with you
sentiment and doubt that I will be able to climb Mt. Vesuvius when I'm
87. However, I have "climbed" Mt. Vesuvius. To put it in perspective,
one arrives at the ticket booths by bus, taxi, etc. and walks up a wide
trail to the top. The trail is 860 meters long and rises 135 meters to a
max altitude of 1180 meters. It takes 15-20 minutes at a leisurely pace.
It's more of a stroll than a climb. But kudos to your father.
I wasn't there, my mother made it sound like a big deal. He could out
run me when I was 15 and he was 73!

Margy

Margy Natalie wrote:

I wasn't there, my mother made it sound like a big deal. He could out
run me when I was 15 and he was 73!

Margy

As I said, I doubt I'll be doing it at that age. It is a big deal.

"Margy Natalie" wrote

I wasn't there, my mother made it sound like a big deal. He could out run
me when I was 15 and he was 73!

My grandfather was the same way. He could outwork me, anytime.

When I was about 12, we put an in-ground swimming pool in our back yard. We
had a backhoe dig most of it, but my dad thought it would be a good idea to
first strip the sod off of the work area, and dig out the top foot or so of
topsoil, to fill in a ditch in the front yard.

We dug that dirt, about 30' X 55', one shovel at a time, into a trailer,
then unloaded it one shovel at a time. That is somewhere around 90 tons of
dirt moved, with grandpa, my 10 year old brother, and me. I'm sure my 70
year old grandpa moved well over half of it.

He could work all day long, with barely a pause. He knew exactly how to
pace himself to do that. He used to be a lumberjack in his younger years.
That tells you something, if you know much about the early lumberjacks. :-)

I admire that generation, now mostly gone. I wish the younger kids would
magically get just half of their work ethic.
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Jim in NC

On 2007-01-28, Morgans wrote:
I admire that generation, now mostly gone. I wish the younger kids would
magically get just half of their work ethic.

"The children now love luxury; they show disrespect for elders and love
to chatter in place of exercise. Children are tyrants, not servants of
the household..."
-- Hesoid (8th century BC)

Plenty of people in this generation and the next have equal work ethic.
Plenty of people of your grandfather's generation were lazy or
dishonest. "Kids of today..." comments are merely a symptom of getting
old, I'm afraid!

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"Dylan Smith" wrote

Plenty of people in this generation and the next have equal work ethic.
Plenty of people of your grandfather's generation were lazy or
dishonest. "Kids of today..." comments are merely a symptom of getting
old, I'm afraid!

Much of what you say has a lot of truth in it. If you think that there is
no difference between now and 20 years ago, and that it is just in the
viewer's perception, you are sadly mistaken.
--
Jim in NC