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  #31  
Old January 30th 07, 08:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gig 601XL Builder
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder writes:

This brings up another point. If FAs are there primarily for
emergencies and not as flying wait staff then why don't the airlines
train at least senior FAs to serve as backup radio ops and a second
pair of eyes/hands?


Too many regulatory hurdles, I suspect.


As opposed to getting a random passenger.


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Old January 30th 07, 11:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

As opposed to getting a random passenger.


Exactly.

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Old January 31st 07, 02:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:
This brings up another point. If FAs are there primarily for
emergencies and not as flying wait staff then why don't the airlines
train at least senior FAs to serve as backup radio ops and a second
pair of eyes/hands?


Too many regulatory hurdles, I suspect.


As opposed to getting a random passenger.



Not a random passenger, a certificated pilot. I would certainly
consider a certificated pilot--ANY certificated pilot--more qualified to
be on the flight deck in such a situation than a flight attendant who
did not hold a pilot certificate.



JKG
  #34  
Old January 31st 07, 09:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
Judah wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in
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And don't call me Shirley.


Hold the mayo.

Kid, I ain't Jerome Abdul Jabar.

Bad day to stop sniffing glue.

The red curb is for unloading....

Please assume the crash position.

Roger.
"Huh?"

(paraphrased) He's high. He's too hot. He's left. Now he's low. What
an asshole.

The **** is really going to hit the fan. I used this when the light
twin with Japanese CFI and 2 Japanese students out of RHV crashed into
the raw sewage holding tank south of SJC a month ago. In this case, it
was 2 fans. (sorry to make a joke of it but it was hard to refuse)

Gerald
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Old January 31st 07, 09:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jay Beckman wrote:
"Good Luck, we're all counting on you..."


My CFI and CFII (the same person) said that line I think in EVERY one of
my 300+ approaches, landings and of course as part of the after landing
checklist. I now use it many times a day.

Gerald
  #36  
Old January 31st 07, 09:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
G. Sylvester
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
This brings up another point. If FAs are there primarily for emergencies and
not as flying wait staff then why don't the airlines train at least senior
FAs to serve as backup radio ops and a second pair of eyes/hands?


Or why there is a mandatory retirement age for pilots yet none for FA's.
The previous #1 by seniority (no pun intended) at UA was 80+ years
old. Her name was Gladys IIRC. If someone mentioned her name, most of
the real frequent fliers (1K's on up) would recognize the name and knew
who you were talking about. She was forced to retire last year IIRC
when she couldn't open up the cabin door. No joke. Can you imagine
this woman jumping down a chute in a wheel chair. ?

The FAA should set a mandatory retirement age for FA's. And if it were
up to me, I'd make that age 32. ;-)

Gerald
  #37  
Old January 31st 07, 11:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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G. Sylvester writes:

Or why there is a mandatory retirement age for pilots yet none for FA's.


Pilots had a stronger union when the regulation was enacted.

The previous #1 by seniority (no pun intended) at UA was 80+ years
old. Her name was Gladys IIRC. If someone mentioned her name, most of
the real frequent fliers (1K's on up) would recognize the name and knew
who you were talking about. She was forced to retire last year IIRC
when she couldn't open up the cabin door. No joke. Can you imagine
this woman jumping down a chute in a wheel chair.


I can imagine younger people making fun of you when you reach that
age, if you do.

The FAA should set a mandatory retirement age for FA's. And if it were
up to me, I'd make that age 32.


Why?

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Old January 31st 07, 01:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Gig,

Surely you are kidding?


I'm not. And don't call me Shirley ;-)

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Old January 31st 07, 02:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jonathan Goodish wrote:
In article ,
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:
This brings up another point. If FAs are there primarily for
emergencies and not as flying wait staff then why don't the
airlines train at least senior FAs to serve as backup radio ops
and a second pair of eyes/hands?

Too many regulatory hurdles, I suspect.


As opposed to getting a random passenger.



Not a random passenger, a certificated pilot. I would certainly
consider a certificated pilot--ANY certificated pilot--more qualified
to be on the flight deck in such a situation than a flight attendant
who did not hold a pilot certificate.


An FA could easily be tought enough to help tune the radios and be an extra
set of eyes. It could be done 100% in the simulator.


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Old January 31st 07, 02:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gig 601XL Builder
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G. Sylvester wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
Judah wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in
:

And don't call me Shirley.


Hold the mayo.

Kid, I ain't Jerome Abdul Jabar.

Bad day to stop sniffing glue.

The red curb is for unloading....

Please assume the crash position.

Roger.
"Huh?"

(paraphrased) He's high. He's too hot. He's left. Now he's low. What an
asshole.

The **** is really going to hit the fan. I used this when the light
twin with Japanese CFI and 2 Japanese students out of RHV crashed into
the raw sewage holding tank south of SJC a month ago. In this case,
it was 2 fans. (sorry to make a joke of it but it was hard to refuse)

Gerald


I picked the wrong day to stop smoking.


 




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