MS Flight Sim

"Dennis Johnson" wrote:

Flying is flying, I don't care if it's a Cub without an
electrical system or a computer running MS Flight Sim.

********.

Give the guy a break.

Better yet, give him a plonk.

--
Dan
C-172RG at BFM

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"Dennis Johnson" wrote:

If a person is sitting in front of an instrument panel manipulating controls
whose performance is based on aerodynamic principles, that's flying. It
might be flying a simulator, but it's still flying.

If your butt isn't in the airplane, you aren't flying.

Operating a sim isn't flying

Operating an RC plane isn't flying (the RC is flying but you aren't)

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

Bob Noel wrote:

In article ,
"Dennis Johnson" wrote:


If a person is sitting in front of an instrument panel manipulating controls
whose performance is based on aerodynamic principles, that's flying. It
might be flying a simulator, but it's still flying.


If your butt isn't in the airplane, you aren't flying.

Interesting article in this week Av Week about the operator of an UAV
not having his/her butt in the tin.

Didn't we really learn the reasonable fear of flying during our presolo
training and especially on our first solo flight?

(something MXmaniac wouldn't have a clue about)

Bob Noel writes:

If your butt isn't in the airplane, you aren't flying.

So when I sat in the cockpit of a 747, I was flying?

Flying is in the mind and heart, not in the air.

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Mxsmanic wrote:

Bob Noel writes:


If your butt isn't in the airplane, you aren't flying.


So when I sat in the cockpit of a 747, I was flying?

Flying is in the mind and heart, not in the air.

Your retorts are hostile and absurd on their face.

I guess sex is in the mind and the hear, and not with the woman (or man,
as the case may be.)

Dennis Johnson wrote:
Greetings,

I think those who are arguing that flying MS Flight Sim isn't really
"flying" are on the losing side of the argument. Flying is flying, I don't
care if it's a Cub without an electrical system or a computer running MS
Flight Sim. As far as general procedures go, MS Flight Sim gives a great
workout, and for instrument procedures, it's terrific.

If a person is sitting in front of an instrument panel manipulating controls
whose performance is based on aerodynamic principles, that's flying. It
might be flying a simulator, but it's still flying.

I think it's in our best interest to welcome anyone to this newsgroup who is
interested in aviation. Personally, I'm impressed with Mxsmanic's
commitment to mastering instrument procedures. I'll bet he could put many
of us to shame.

Give the guy a break.

Dennis



You're kidding I hope. Commitment to mastering instrument procedures?
This is a flying newsgroup, not a sim newsgroup, yet he blatantly shows
nothing but disdain for real flying.

MS flight sim is a game. It is not flying.

"Dennis Johnson" wrote in
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If a person is sitting in front of an instrument panel manipulating
controls whose performance is based on aerodynamic principles, that's
flying. It might be flying a simulator, but it's still flying.

By your definition, birds do something other than fly.

Flying means being carried aloft. That's how Webster sees it.

Piloting may include simulators, but flying does not.

I think it's in our best interest to welcome anyone to this newsgroup
who is interested in aviation. Personally, I'm impressed with
Mxsmanic's commitment to mastering instrument procedures. I'll bet he
could put many of us to shame.

Give the guy a break.

Manic's problem has nothing to do with flying, knowledge, or procedures.
It has everything to do with respect and attitude.

He is like a man born sightless who would scorn artists in their own
gallery because they use terms like "warm colors" and "cool colors". He
insists that colors cannot express temperature because he cannot feel any
more warmth when he touches red and yellow than when he touches blue.

He may make accurate technical statements. But, like the blind man, his
appreciation of the full experience is limited. We all know that if he had
just a momentary glimpse of the rainbow he would "get it". And for a brief
period, many of us try to help him cure his blindness. We try to describe
the colors blue and red and yellow, the feelings and emotions that are
evoked when we look at a Stained-Glass Window by Chagall, a Sunflower by
Van Gogh, or a Soup Can by Warhol. We hope that he will open his eyes, and
see, and begin to understand.

But instead he just tells us that we are wrong - that sight has nothing to
do with temperature, and he doesn't need it or want it. He says we're just
idiot artists because we can't explain blue and red and yellow to him. They
must not exist because he doesn't get it.

He will never appreciate art as anything more than the texture of ink
saturated on paper.

He is lost, and all he really has to do is open his eyes.

What a shame.

Judah writes:

By your definition, birds do something other than fly.

They don't have a yoke or rudder to manipulate, and they don't get the
"leans," so by the definition of many other pilots here, they aren't flying,
either.

Flying means being carried aloft.

So elevators fly.

That's how Webster sees it.

There's no such thing as "Webster." It's a meaningless generic term applied
to dictionaries to make them sound authoritative.

Manic's problem has nothing to do with flying, knowledge, or procedures.
It has everything to do with respect and attitude.

True. People here aren't interested in being correct or incorrect, or
discussing aviation. They are interested in maintaining a social club with a
stereotypical male pecking order. I'm not interested in playing the game or
asking for permission to enter the treehouse, and so I'm the enemy. Aviation
has nothing to do with it. The nominal topic of a newsgroup _never_ has
anything to do with it, despite the claims of the club members to the
contrary.

We all know that if he had
just a momentary glimpse of the rainbow he would "get it".

No, I wouldn't. Most people have trouble understanding and accepting that not
everyone is like themselves. These people tell me that I'll "get it" when I
have experience X. But I know myself better than they do, and I know that I
won't change. I never have in the past. But that makes me different from
them, and so that is something they cannot grasp.

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