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Old March 31st 07, 04:22 AM posted to alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Tim
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Tim wrote in :


Mxsmanic wrote:

David writes:



So why is it the general public thinks that to be a real
pilot you have to aspire to become a scheduled airline captain?


For much the same reason that some people think that people who fly
simulators cannot be real pilots. It's human nature to try to rank
people, always in such a way that the person doing the ranking turns
out to merit a high rank, whereas other people turn out to merit a
low rank.


No one said you could not be one. Just that you are not one. Big
difference.



No, not so I said he couldn't be one. He can't


Bertie



Yes, I didn;t see your posts until after.
I think you are incorrect. It is not that hard to do. I would bet he
could do it if he took lessons.

By the way, you are about as annoying as he is in your posts.
Go back to fantasy australia, please.
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Old March 31st 07, 04:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
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Tim wrote in :

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Tim wrote in news:gNfPh.13$zm5.4

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Mxsmanic wrote:

David writes:



So why is it the general public thinks that to be a real
pilot you have to aspire to become a scheduled airline captain?


For much the same reason that some people think that people who fly
simulators cannot be real pilots. It's human nature to try to rank
people, always in such a way that the person doing the ranking turns
out to merit a high rank, whereas other people turn out to merit a
low rank.


No one said you could not be one. Just that you are not one. Big
difference.



No, not so I said he couldn't be one. He can't


Bertie



Yes, I didn;t see your posts until after.
I think you are incorrect. It is not that hard to do.


Didn't say it was, just too hard for him.

I would bet he
could do it if he took lessons.

By the way, you are about as annoying as he is in your posts.


Good. You don;t like me, killfile me. Otherwise, go **** yourself.


Bertie
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Old March 31st 07, 01:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Tim writes:

No one said you could not be one. Just that you are not one. Big
difference.


I didn't say anything about myself.

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Old March 31st 07, 04:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Tim writes:


No one said you could not be one. Just that you are not one. Big
difference.



I didn't say anything about myself.


I was using "you" as a specific case of your generalality of people who
fly sims can't fly.

Your quote below.

"some people think that people who fly simulators cannot be real pilots."


If you would rather, I can generalize too...

Most people can learn to be real pilots. It has nothing to do with
simulators. Now, that is altogether different than saying
"people who only use games or simulators are not pilots"
If you don't pilot a flying device, you are not a pilot. If you "fly"
in a simulator or in a game - you are only a game pilot or a simulator
pilot.
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Old March 31st 07, 05:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Mar 30, 11:57 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
David writes:
So why is it the general public thinks that to be a real
pilot you have to aspire to become a scheduled airline captain?


For much the same reason that some people think that people who fly simulators
cannot be real pilots. It's human nature to try to rank people, always in
such a way that the person doing the ranking turns out to merit a high rank,
whereas other people turn out to merit a low rank.

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I've used MSFS off and on since I was a teenager, and I used it
extensively during my instrument training. It saved me a lot of money
for learning instrument procedures, and it was a great tool. But
nothing about MSFS *makes* one a REAL pilot. I'm a newbie pilot with
a fresh commercial certificate and a still wet instrument rating. But
from the little bit of trudging around the skys I've done, there's no
way to simulate the real thing. I've "flown" level D airlines sims
before, and they don't even compare to flying around in a real C172.

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Old March 31st 07, 11:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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wrxpilot writes:

I've used MSFS off and on since I was a teenager, and I used it
extensively during my instrument training. It saved me a lot of money
for learning instrument procedures, and it was a great tool. But
nothing about MSFS *makes* one a REAL pilot. I'm a newbie pilot with
a fresh commercial certificate and a still wet instrument rating. But
from the little bit of trudging around the skys I've done, there's no
way to simulate the real thing. I've "flown" level D airlines sims
before, and they don't even compare to flying around in a real C172.


Everyone knows, however, that if you haven't flown an airliner, you're not a
real pilot. A C172 doesn't count--or does it?

The "real" qualifier is a moving target, depending on whom you're talking to,
and who you are. I don't know that having a few hours in a C172 would count
much among 747 pilots. Everyone wants someone else to look down upon.

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Old March 31st 07, 12:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
:

wrxpilot writes:

I've used MSFS off and on since I was a teenager, and I used it
extensively during my instrument training. It saved me a lot of
money for learning instrument procedures, and it was a great tool.
But nothing about MSFS *makes* one a REAL pilot. I'm a newbie pilot
with a fresh commercial certificate and a still wet instrument
rating. But from the little bit of trudging around the skys I've
done, there's no way to simulate the real thing. I've "flown" level
D airlines sims before, and they don't even compare to flying around
in a real C172.


Everyone knows, however, that if you haven't flown an airliner, you're
not a real pilot. A C172 doesn't count--or does it?



Yes, it does, fjukktard.


The "real" qualifier is a moving target, depending on whom you're
talking to, and who you are. I don't know that having a few hours in
a C172 would count much among 747 pilots. Everyone wants someone else
to look down upon.



Fortunate that you;'re here then, isn't it? No fighting over who has to
pull bottom rung.



Bertie

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Old March 31st 07, 01:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Mxsmanic" wrote

Everyone knows, however, that if you haven't flown an airliner, you're not

a
real pilot. A C172 doesn't count--or does it?

The "real" qualifier is a moving target, depending on whom you're talking

to,
and who you are. I don't know that having a few hours in a C172 would

count
much among 747 pilots. Everyone wants someone else to look down upon.


You labor under a typical misconception for a non-pilot - you need to
actually talk with some of the large equipment pilots if you really think
that any of them look down on pilots who fly smaller aircraft. I know quite
a few, and not a single one of them feels this way. In fact, when it comes
to preference every one of them would rather be out flying a Piper Cub than
an airliner.

Would you rather be out driving a bus around, or a sports car? Never mind,
I think I know =your= answer...

BDS


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Old March 31st 07, 06:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
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"BDS" wrote in
:

"Mxsmanic" wrote

Everyone knows, however, that if you haven't flown an airliner,
you're not

a
real pilot. A C172 doesn't count--or does it?

The "real" qualifier is a moving target, depending on whom you're
talking

to,
and who you are. I don't know that having a few hours in a C172
would

count
much among 747 pilots. Everyone wants someone else to look down
upon.


You labor under a typical misconception for a non-pilot - you need to
actually talk with some of the large equipment pilots if you really
think that any of them look down on pilots who fly smaller aircraft.
I know quite a few, and not a single one of them feels this way. In
fact, when it comes to preference every one of them would rather be
out flying a Piper Cub than an airliner.



Well, not every one.. Just the real ones.

Would you rather be out driving a bus around, or a sports car? Never
mind, I think I know =your= answer...


Microsoft midtown madness!


Bertie
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Old March 31st 07, 03:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
wrxpilot writes:

I've used MSFS off and on since I was a teenager, and I used it
extensively during my instrument training. It saved me a lot of money
for learning instrument procedures, and it was a great tool. But
nothing about MSFS *makes* one a REAL pilot. I'm a newbie pilot with
a fresh commercial certificate and a still wet instrument rating. But
from the little bit of trudging around the skys I've done, there's no
way to simulate the real thing. I've "flown" level D airlines sims
before, and they don't even compare to flying around in a real C172.


Everyone knows, however, that if you haven't flown an airliner, you're not
a
real pilot. A C172 doesn't count--or does it?

The "real" qualifier is a moving target, depending on whom you're talking
to,
and who you are. I don't know that having a few hours in a C172 would
count
much among 747 pilots. Everyone wants someone else to look down upon.


No. The real qualifier is whether you are a socially challenged 12 year old,
or someone with and honest desire to learn from experienced individuals.


 




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