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Old March 31st 07, 01:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Tim writes:

No one said you could not be one. Just that you are not one. Big
difference.


I didn't say anything about myself.

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Old March 31st 07, 02:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jay Honeck writes:

Oh, hell, the world is full of idiots.

I've been told I'm not "really" a hotelier because we only have 28
suites...

I've been told I wasn't "really" a newspaperman because I worked the
business side of it...

I've been told that I'm not "really" a pilot because I'm not
instrument rated...

I've been told I don't ride "real" motorcycles cuz I don't ride a
Harley...

The list goes on and on. I learned a long time ago not to define my
success (or failure) by what others think.


It's the principle of the five experts. No matter what your experience or
knowledge, there are always people around who will say, "You can't discuss
that--there are only five people in the world qualified to discuss that."

In other words, if someone wants to put you down, there will always be some
qualification that you must have and that you lack, in his eyes. Conversely,
if he wants to build you up, then whatever qualifications will be more than
sufficient in his eyes. And very often, in the former case, the critical
missing qualification will be whatever he can find that he has and you do not.

It is indeed a waste of time to worry about what other people think.

Which reminds me of something else I once heard: At 20, you worry constantly
about what other people think of you. At 40, you don't care what they think
of you. At 60, you realize that they were never thinking of you at all.

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Old March 31st 07, 02:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Nomen Nescio" wrote in message
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From: Mxsmanic

So why is it the general public thinks that to be a real
pilot you have to aspire to become a scheduled airline captain?


For much the same reason that some people think that people who fly
simulators
cannot be real pilots.


I don't know anyone who thinks that people who fly simulators
cannot be real pilots.


I agree with your answer to this poster totally.

There are many people out here who use and enjoy a desktop simulator who can
interface quite well with the real world of aviation and indeed do so here
on these newsgroups on a daily basis 24/7.

There is also no reason put forth by the real world aviation community that
I have ever seen anyway, that denies anyone from becoming a pilot if that is
their choice.
The exception to this of course would be a simulator savvy person who for
some reason known only to themselves just can't interface with the real
world pilot community.
When this happens, and in my experience on these groups, this has happened
only on extremely rare occasions, it is quite unfortunate.
I will pass on the opporunity to speak to the present situation, in the hope
that it might rectify itself down the line sometime in the future, although
that prospect does appear to seem dim to say the least :-))

Dudley Henriques


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Old March 31st 07, 02:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Dudley Henriques writes:

There is also no reason put forth by the real world aviation community that
I have ever seen anyway, that denies anyone from becoming a pilot if that is
their choice.


I hope your next medical goes well.

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Old March 31st 07, 02:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Another similar comment I often encounter is that I am not a real
doctor because I did not go to medical school.


On Mar 30, 2:59 pm, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
Once again, I'm not a real pilot.
Yesterday my daughter was confronted at school by
some (6th grade) classmates, they said her father was
not a real pilot.


Oh, hell, the world is full of idiots.

I've been told I'm not "really" a hotelier because we only have 28
suites...

I've been told I wasn't "really" a newspaperman because I worked the
business side of it...

I've been told that I'm not "really" a pilot because I'm not
instrument rated...

I've been told I don't ride "real" motorcycles cuz I don't ride a
Harley...

The list goes on and on. I learned a long time ago not to define my
success (or failure) by what others think.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"



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Old March 31st 07, 03:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Dudley Henriques writes:

There is also no reason put forth by the real world aviation community
that
I have ever seen anyway, that denies anyone from becoming a pilot if that
is
their choice.


I hope your next medical goes well.


I'll re-phrase that which should have been obvious;

"There is no reason put forth by the real world aviation community that I
have ever seen, that would deny anyone from becoming a pilot if that is
their choice."
The only limitation or limitations that I have ever seen in my 50 odd years
in the flight instruction business that would prevent someone from becoming
a pilot would be a medical, physical, or financial limitation concerning the
person wishing to seek this goal.
Dudley Henriques


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Old March 31st 07, 03:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Dudley Henriques writes:

The only limitation or limitations that I have ever seen in my 50 odd years
in the flight instruction business that would prevent someone from becoming
a pilot would be a medical, physical, or financial limitation concerning the
person wishing to seek this goal.


That's an extremely broad range of possible obstacles.

I asked at the pilot shop today if it's true that getting even just a PPL (in
France) costs around $17,000, and this was confirmed to me. With a per capita
income of $30,100, only a handful of people in the country can ever hope to
become pilots. Add that to the need for a medical and lots of time, and
almost nobody can reach that goal.

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Old March 31st 07, 03:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On 30 Mar 2007 18:53:30 -0700, "Andrew Sarangan"
wrote:


Another similar comment I often encounter is that I am not a real
doctor because I did not go to medical school.

Most places, you'd be "Professor Doctor" Sarangan. In North America
and Britian, though, Wikipedia says persons like yourself are commonly
addressed as"Doctor," although the Brits balk at calling a dentist or
veterinarian that. (Not sure about Canada.) And I think most educated
North Americans from either side of the 49th would consider a person
with a J.D. or a D.Ed who called himself a doctor a pompous twit. I'd
say the same for doctors of divinity myself, but newspapers seem to
disagree with me.

And after reading your C.V., I would certainly be wary of playing
cards with you, Doc.

Don
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Old March 31st 07, 04:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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writes:

Yep David, those are the people you want to take for a ride and while on
short final, let go of the controls and tell them, "You Have the Plane."

Want to see how fast you become a real pilot?


Of course, if they successfully land, your ego may implode.


I can tel you for a fact you couldn't do it.


Bertie
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Old March 31st 07, 04:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Tim writes:

Not likely


Which makes it all the more humiliating if it happens.


You couldn't start my airplane, you couldn't taxi it. you couldn't get
it to the end of th erunway in one piece, if you did, you couldn't do a
succesful takeoff roll in one piece, nor rotate to the correct attitude
and chances are, even if you did all the above, you wouldn't clear the
obstacles at the end of the runway where it's based.

and that's just a widdle bitty lightplane.

As to the one I work on, you couldn't figure out how to even get on
board it and power it up so you could do any of the above.


Bertie
 




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