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Old May 27th 07, 11:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
B A R R Y
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On Sat, 26 May 2007 16:27:58 -0700, Sylvain wrote:

B A R R Y wrote:
Responsibility... Just like a sea captain.


if you define responsibility by, say, the number of
casualties you might get per goofs, then why are physicians
(who can kill/maim only one person at a time) paid more than
engineers (who can goof really big, and repeatedly, unlike
airline pilots); we should be on the very top of the pay
scale! :-)


A colleague of mine is a retired commander of nuclear powered
ballistic missile submarines. What would he be worth? G

I was using sea captains as a comparison, as they get additional
ratings and pay based on displacement tonnage. For instance, a super
tanker captain is usually better paid than a 100' whale watch boat
captain, even though the tanker will have less people aboard.
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Old May 27th 07, 02:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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B A R R Y writes:

I was using sea captains as a comparison, as they get additional
ratings and pay based on displacement tonnage. For instance, a super
tanker captain is usually better paid than a 100' whale watch boat
captain, even though the tanker will have less people aboard.


The tanker is worth more money, and money is more important than people.
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Old May 31st 07, 12:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On May 25, 8:24 am, Andrew Sarangan wrote:
On May 25, 10:27 am, Kingfish wrote:

Interesting article here on the arbitration case between Singapore
Airlines and its pilots. The court ruled SIA must pay A380 captains
more than 747 captains. Duh? If it's bigger, heavier and has more
seats that should be a no-brainer IMHO, unless of course the airline
is trying to contain labor costs. I was amazed to see their monthly
base pay of $10k for 747 captains. $120k/yr to fly a 747? Even
allowing for per diem and other stuff, SWA's 737 captains make a lot
more than that...


http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...court-rules-si...


Do bigger airplanes require more skill to fly? The Wright Flyer weighs
only 600 lbs but most pilots don't have the skill to fly it.


Generally airlines require more hours to fly the bigger planes. As a
result those more experienced pilots will tend to make more because
they can demand a higher salary in the market (in addition to union
factors). Bottom line, its easier to convince someone to fly their
C-172 for you than their B-747.

-Robert

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Old May 31st 07, 12:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On May 25, 8:24 am, Andrew Sarangan wrote:
On May 25, 10:27 am, Kingfish wrote:



Hummer drivers must be smarter than Geo Metro drivers.


Hummers don't require more experienced drivers (maybe they should
though). However, driving an 18 wheel rig requires more experience
than driving an in-town delivery truck and the pay reflects that.

-Robert



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Old May 31st 07, 12:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Robert M. Gary wrote:
However, driving an 18 wheel rig requires more experience
than driving an in-town delivery truck and the pay reflects that.


As well as the license. Just like flying, there are also additional
endorsements for hazmat, oversize, tandem, etc...

I'll bet the average truck driver makes better money than the average
non-airline pilot. 8^(
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Old May 31st 07, 07:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On May 31, 4:36 am, B A R R Y wrote:
Robert M. Gary wrote:
However, driving an 18 wheel rig requires more experience
than driving an in-town delivery truck and the pay reflects that.


As well as the license. Just like flying, there are also additional
endorsements for hazmat, oversize, tandem, etc...

I'll bet the average truck driver makes better money than the average
non-airline pilot. 8^(


Yes, in fact if there is one industry in the U.S. that is yelling for
people to come work for them with good pay and little experience, its
trucking. When I was in college many of my friends drove tomatoes
during summer break. Back in the early 90's they were paying almost
$20/hr for zero experience 20 year olds. The trucking companies had
their own DMV examiners on staff and would train you (free) and sign
you off in a week and you were driving a double rig the next day. From
everything I've heard the trucking industry is even more desperate
now.

-Robert

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Old May 31st 07, 11:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article . com,
"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

On May 31, 4:36 am, B A R R Y wrote:
Robert M. Gary wrote:
However, driving an 18 wheel rig requires more experience
than driving an in-town delivery truck and the pay reflects that.


As well as the license. Just like flying, there are also additional
endorsements for hazmat, oversize, tandem, etc...

I'll bet the average truck driver makes better money than the average
non-airline pilot. 8^(


Yes, in fact if there is one industry in the U.S. that is yelling for
people to come work for them with good pay and little experience, its
trucking. When I was in college many of my friends drove tomatoes
during summer break. Back in the early 90's they were paying almost
$20/hr for zero experience 20 year olds. The trucking companies had
their own DMV examiners on staff and would train you (free) and sign
you off in a week and you were driving a double rig the next day. From
everything I've heard the trucking industry is even more desperate
now.


Trucking is the preferred job of Somali immigrants.
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Old May 25th 07, 11:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Kingfish wrote in
oups.com:

Interesting article here on the arbitration case between Singapore
Airlines and its pilots. The court ruled SIA must pay A380
captains more than 747 captains. Duh? If it's bigger, heavier and
has more seats that should be a no-brainer IMHO, unless of course
the airline is trying to contain labor costs. I was amazed to see
their monthly base pay of $10k for 747 captains. $120k/yr to fly a
747? Even allowing for per diem and other stuff, SWA's 737
captains make a lot more than that...


$120,000(Singapore) = $78,555(US)

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