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On Sat, 26 May 2007 16:27:58 -0700, Sylvain wrote:
B A R R Y wrote: Responsibility... Just like a sea captain. if you define responsibility by, say, the number of casualties you might get per goofs, then why are physicians (who can kill/maim only one person at a time) paid more than engineers (who can goof really big, and repeatedly, unlike airline pilots); we should be on the very top of the pay scale! :-) A colleague of mine is a retired commander of nuclear powered ballistic missile submarines. What would he be worth? G I was using sea captains as a comparison, as they get additional ratings and pay based on displacement tonnage. For instance, a super tanker captain is usually better paid than a 100' whale watch boat captain, even though the tanker will have less people aboard. |
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B A R R Y writes:
I was using sea captains as a comparison, as they get additional ratings and pay based on displacement tonnage. For instance, a super tanker captain is usually better paid than a 100' whale watch boat captain, even though the tanker will have less people aboard. The tanker is worth more money, and money is more important than people. |
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On May 25, 8:24 am, Andrew Sarangan wrote:
On May 25, 10:27 am, Kingfish wrote: Interesting article here on the arbitration case between Singapore Airlines and its pilots. The court ruled SIA must pay A380 captains more than 747 captains. Duh? If it's bigger, heavier and has more seats that should be a no-brainer IMHO, unless of course the airline is trying to contain labor costs. I was amazed to see their monthly base pay of $10k for 747 captains. $120k/yr to fly a 747? Even allowing for per diem and other stuff, SWA's 737 captains make a lot more than that... http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...court-rules-si... Do bigger airplanes require more skill to fly? The Wright Flyer weighs only 600 lbs but most pilots don't have the skill to fly it. Generally airlines require more hours to fly the bigger planes. As a result those more experienced pilots will tend to make more because they can demand a higher salary in the market (in addition to union factors). Bottom line, its easier to convince someone to fly their C-172 for you than their B-747. -Robert |
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On May 25, 8:24 am, Andrew Sarangan wrote:
On May 25, 10:27 am, Kingfish wrote: Hummer drivers must be smarter than Geo Metro drivers. Hummers don't require more experienced drivers (maybe they should though). However, driving an 18 wheel rig requires more experience than driving an in-town delivery truck and the pay reflects that. -Robert |
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Robert M. Gary wrote:
However, driving an 18 wheel rig requires more experience than driving an in-town delivery truck and the pay reflects that. As well as the license. Just like flying, there are also additional endorsements for hazmat, oversize, tandem, etc... I'll bet the average truck driver makes better money than the average non-airline pilot. 8^( |
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On May 31, 4:36 am, B A R R Y wrote:
Robert M. Gary wrote: However, driving an 18 wheel rig requires more experience than driving an in-town delivery truck and the pay reflects that. As well as the license. Just like flying, there are also additional endorsements for hazmat, oversize, tandem, etc... I'll bet the average truck driver makes better money than the average non-airline pilot. 8^( Yes, in fact if there is one industry in the U.S. that is yelling for people to come work for them with good pay and little experience, its trucking. When I was in college many of my friends drove tomatoes during summer break. Back in the early 90's they were paying almost $20/hr for zero experience 20 year olds. The trucking companies had their own DMV examiners on staff and would train you (free) and sign you off in a week and you were driving a double rig the next day. From everything I've heard the trucking industry is even more desperate now. -Robert |
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In article . com,
"Robert M. Gary" wrote: On May 31, 4:36 am, B A R R Y wrote: Robert M. Gary wrote: However, driving an 18 wheel rig requires more experience than driving an in-town delivery truck and the pay reflects that. As well as the license. Just like flying, there are also additional endorsements for hazmat, oversize, tandem, etc... I'll bet the average truck driver makes better money than the average non-airline pilot. 8^( Yes, in fact if there is one industry in the U.S. that is yelling for people to come work for them with good pay and little experience, its trucking. When I was in college many of my friends drove tomatoes during summer break. Back in the early 90's they were paying almost $20/hr for zero experience 20 year olds. The trucking companies had their own DMV examiners on staff and would train you (free) and sign you off in a week and you were driving a double rig the next day. From everything I've heard the trucking industry is even more desperate now. Trucking is the preferred job of Somali immigrants. |
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Kingfish wrote in
oups.com: Interesting article here on the arbitration case between Singapore Airlines and its pilots. The court ruled SIA must pay A380 captains more than 747 captains. Duh? If it's bigger, heavier and has more seats that should be a no-brainer IMHO, unless of course the airline is trying to contain labor costs. I was amazed to see their monthly base pay of $10k for 747 captains. $120k/yr to fly a 747? Even allowing for per diem and other stuff, SWA's 737 captains make a lot more than that... $120,000(Singapore) = $78,555(US) -- |
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