Birdman Flies across Channel

"Mary Shafer" wrote in message
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On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 07:31:39 +0100, Peter Twydell
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It's also a big psychological barrier. The Romans/Angles, Saxons,
Jutes/Normans managed to invade or just get across it and the North Sea,
but no-one's crossed it successfully with evil intent since 1066.
(Except the Aussies coming for the Ashes, of course.)

The Royal Netherlands Marines (Korps Mariniers) managed to cross the
Channel, run up the Thames, and do a little invading and sacking in
1666.

The Royal Netherlands Marines were established on 10 Dec 1665 during
the Dutch Wars (which caused the British to form the Royal Marines on
28 Oct 1664) so they hit the ground running.

The oldest marine corps in the world was established on 26 Feb 1537,
by the way.


I kinda doubt that , I seem to recall the Phoenicians were pretty
good at that type of warfare a couple of millenia earlier and the
Athenians did a fair number of amphib operations too.

Keith

On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 12:19:37 +0100, "Keith Willshaw"
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"Mary Shafer" wrote in message
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The oldest marine corps in the world was established on 26 Feb 1537,
by the way.

I kinda doubt that , I seem to recall the Phoenicians were pretty
good at that type of warfare a couple of millenia earlier and the
Athenians did a fair number of amphib operations too.

Where are they now? Were they formally constituted? What date?
It takes more than amphibious operations to make a marine corps.

If it makes you feel better, change my sentence to "The oldest modern
marine corps...." or "The oldest marine corps still in existence...."

You're just splitting hairs because it's not the Royal Marines.

Mary

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Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer

The oldest marine corps in the world was established on 26 Feb 1537,
by the way.


I kinda doubt that , I seem to recall the Phoenicians were pretty
good at that type of warfare a couple of millenia earlier and the
Athenians did a fair number of amphib operations too.

Keith

Spain was the first country to acquire a marine force when Charles V
created the Campanias Viejas del Mar de Napole in 1537. From Lepante
in 1571 to Cuba in 1898 Spanish marines fought in all battles that
made Spain a great maritime nation.

Rob

"robert arndt" wrote in message
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The oldest marine corps in the world was established on 26 Feb 1537,
by the way.


I kinda doubt that , I seem to recall the Phoenicians were pretty
good at that type of warfare a couple of millenia earlier and the
Athenians did a fair number of amphib operations too.

Keith

Spain was the first country to acquire a marine force when Charles V
created the Campanias Viejas del Mar de Napole in 1537. From Lepante
in 1571 to Cuba in 1898 Spanish marines fought in all battles that
made Spain a great maritime nation.

Rob

We know from Herodotus that both the Romans and Phoenicians
had marines. It was at Mylae, west of Messana and south of Lipari
that Hannibal lost to the Romans who had equipped their quinqueremes
with the corvus and packed them full of marines who stormed the
Carthaginian ships.

Keith

"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message ...
"robert arndt" wrote in message
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The oldest marine corps in the world was established on 26 Feb 1537,
by the way.


I kinda doubt that , I seem to recall the Phoenicians were pretty
good at that type of warfare a couple of millenia earlier and the
Athenians did a fair number of amphib operations too.

Keith

Spain was the first country to acquire a marine force when Charles V
created the Campanias Viejas del Mar de Napole in 1537. From Lepante
in 1571 to Cuba in 1898 Spanish marines fought in all battles that
made Spain a great maritime nation.

Rob

We know from Herodotus that both the Romans and Phoenicians
had marines. It was at Mylae, west of Messana and south of Lipari
that Hannibal lost to the Romans who had equipped their quinqueremes
with the corvus and packed them full of marines who stormed the
Carthaginian ships.

Keith

You are confusing ancient amphibious warfare with the creation of a
DEDICATED MARINE FORCE. The ancients crammed ships full of foot
soldiers and landed them on hostile shores- so what? Riverine warfare
had been going on since 3000 BC but none of the nations/empires
involved created a highly specialized marine force exclusively for
amphibious warfare. That didn't happen until Spain created the first
in 1537 followed by France in 1662 with the "Premiere Compagnie de la
Mer" raised by Cardinal de Richelieu, the chief minister to the King,
followed by Britain in 1664 with the Duke of York and Albany's
"Maritime Regiment of Foot".

Rob

p.s. Pirates and Vikings were also noted for their amphibious
landings, so do you consider them marines as well? Of course not!

"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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Um... they already "nicked" it for the last one...

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Oh yeah. Well, just shows how memorable I found that movie!

Si

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"Simon Robbins" wrote:

"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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Um... they already "nicked" it for the last one...

http://www.kineticaerospace.com/

Oh yeah. Well, just shows how memorable I found that movie!

Halle Berry in a bikini, Halle Berry in a leather suit.

If you didn't find that memorable, then it's no wonder you missed the
rest of it.

--


Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.

"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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Halle Berry in a bikini, Halle Berry in a leather suit.

If you didn't find that memorable, then it's no wonder you missed the
rest of it.

Unfortunately, it's all kind of swamped by "Halle Berry crying her eyes out
like a child at the Oscars." Besides, after twenty Bond movies full of
class totty one does kind of merge along with all the others. Now, Jane
Seymour. She's still my favourite..

Si

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Besides, after twenty Bond movies full of
class totty one does kind of merge along with all the others. Now, Jane
Seymour. She's still my favourite..

Famke Janssen for me, thanks

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