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  #31  
Old July 11th 07, 07:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Stewart
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El Maximo wrote:
"Jim Stewart" wrote in message
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Mxmanic


I'd fly with him. I just wouldn't land with him g


LOL
  #32  
Old July 11th 07, 07:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Andrew Gideon
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:21:18 -0400, Marco Leon wrote:

I shudder to think about how many "pilots" operate at his level of ability
on a regular basis.


I just completed a flight review this week. The CFI made comments that
are still bugging me.

I consider myself a mediocre pilot. I'm decent, but I've not enough
experience to be really good or great.

Yet the CFI seemed to consider it praiseworthy because (for example) I
could slip (which I used during a simulated engine failure). Apparently,
a lot of people with whom he flies cannot. It's still on the PPL PTS,
isn't it?

Maybe he was just trying to make me feel comfortable or something (I hate
tests {8^), but...

- Andrew

  #33  
Old July 11th 07, 07:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
C J Campbell[_1_]
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On 2007-07-10 17:28:38 -0700, "Kyle Boatright" said:

After one spooky experience several years ago, I am very discriminating
about who I'll fly with.

First, I have to know a pilot well enough to form an opinion about his/her
abilities as a pilot and about the owner's mechanical aptitude and
ability/will to properly maintain the aircraft.


Heh. You would have had a hard time learning to fly if you thought that
way back then, eh?

As an instructor flying in a strange plane, I want to see logs, just
like a DPE would. The skill of the pilot I am flying with does not
matter so long as he is not suicidal. I am PIC. Always. Whether I like
it or not. I figure if I was asleep in the back of the plane and there
were an incident, some FAA type would insist I was PIC. So I make it
clear from the beginning.

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  #34  
Old July 11th 07, 07:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
C J Campbell[_1_]
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On 2007-07-11 09:02:28 -0700, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net said:

Matt Barrow wrote:
"Dan Luke" wrote in message
...

"Montblack" wrote:

Anyone belonging to a wacko religious cult is on my "no go" list.


Are we speaking aviation or the L.Ron Hubbard thing? :-)


Hmmm....I see your point.

Glass houses, eh?


An aviation cult isn't wacko, just....different.


You may have hit on the answer to the lack of folks interested in aviation.
We need to form a cult around it. If we can become classed as a church the
tax savings alone will be great. The only problem is finding the virgins
that will be required to cut off shirt-tails.


Rod Machado already has the secret rituals worked out. Don't know what
they are, exactly, except that they take place in dark hangars and
involve kneeboards....

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Old July 11th 07, 08:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Marco Leon
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"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
...
And what happens if the controllers attention is aimed somewhere else for
a
moment or he just plan screws up? It is the pilots responsibility to see
and avoid traffic. I'd do exactly what Andrew suggested.


Class D controllers are not responsible for in-air separation, they're
responsible for runway separation. If you expect them to sort it out for
you, you're basically taunting Darwin.


It's a fine line. I'm also based out of a Class D airport and there needs to
be at least some level of trust in the controller. They will yell at you for
re-sequencing yourself on your own. That being said, it is correct that you
are responsible for your separation and should take evasive action as needed
and answer questions later. The gray area is the perception of a collision
threat--yours may be different from the controller.

I'd do what buttman (dude, you gotta change your name. You make it hard for
people to agree with you. I feel reluctant to state that "I'm with
Buttman!") would do and keep going while keeping a close eye on the suspect
traffic and kindly querying the controller with "do you want me in the front
or behind that traffic?" And if they knew your newsgroup name, they would
know your preference...

Marco


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Old July 11th 07, 08:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In a previous article, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net said:
Paul Tomblin wrote:
In a previous article, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net said:
Most likely, the controller would make the upwind guy extend his
upwind, then have him follow me.

And what happens if the controllers attention is aimed somewhere
else for a moment or he just plan screws up? It is the pilots
responsibility to see and avoid traffic. I'd do exactly what Andrew
suggested.


Class D controllers are not responsible for in-air separation, they're
responsible for runway separation. If you expect them to sort it out
for you, you're basically taunting Darwin.


Watch your trimming Paul. I wrote the second paragraph not the first.


That's obvious from the level of '' indentation.


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  #37  
Old July 11th 07, 08:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Montblack
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("C J Campbell" wrote)
Rod Machado already has the secret rituals worked out. Don't know what
they are, exactly, except that they take place in dark hangars and involve
kneeboards....



Oh great, here we go again.... Oh wait. I thought you said kneelers. g


Paul-Mont
(Former alter boy)


  #38  
Old July 11th 07, 08:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gig 601XL Builder
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Paul Tomblin wrote:
In a previous article, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net said:
Paul Tomblin wrote:
In a previous article, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net said:
Most likely, the controller would make the upwind guy extend his
upwind, then have him follow me.

And what happens if the controllers attention is aimed somewhere
else for a moment or he just plan screws up? It is the pilots
responsibility to see and avoid traffic. I'd do exactly what Andrew
suggested.

Class D controllers are not responsible for in-air separation,
they're responsible for runway separation. If you expect them to
sort it out for you, you're basically taunting Darwin.


Watch your trimming Paul. I wrote the second paragraph not the first.


That's obvious from the level of '' indentation.



I know that and you know that, BUT...


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Old July 11th 07, 09:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Paul Tomblin
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In a previous article, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net said:
Paul Tomblin wrote:
In a previous article, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net said:
Watch your trimming Paul. I wrote the second paragraph not the first.

That's obvious from the level of '' indentation.



I know that and you know that, BUT...


Hey, if people can't figure out that, do you care what they have to say?


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Old July 11th 07, 09:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Stefan
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Watch your trimming Paul. I wrote the second paragraph not the first.
That's obvious from the level of '' indentation.


I know that and you know that, BUT...


Hey, if people can't figure out that, do you care what they have to say?


I certainly wouldn't want to fly with a pilot who can't...
 




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