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  #31  
Old October 13th 03, 03:06 AM
Kevin Brooks
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nt (Gordon) wrote in message ...
Small GA is less safe than operating a motorcycle, on the road. (US)


Seriously? I've seen a heck of a lot more downed motorcycles than GA a/c.

What
you were doing was never the safest thing.


I'm supposed to raise him, not keep him in a bubble. For years he's stood by
the runway, watching me step out of various aircraft with a giant-sized
s-eating grin on my face, telling him, "Sorry, you aren't tall enough for this
ride." Under the tutetage of a 7,000-hour TWA Captain in his personal
aircraft, meticulously maintained since he purchased it in 1976, it seemed a
more responsible than handing him to a leather-clad biker on a Ninja.

What would she say if you let
him go as a passenger on a motorcycle?


My son and I have a deal - he never gets on a motorcycle while I am alive, and
in return, I will never break his legs. The worst moment of my life has been
telling parents that their son was killed on his bike (hit by dozens of cars at
the I-5/I-8 interchange). I can't protect him from life, but I couldn't take
re-living that particular moment from other side of the desk.


LOL! You remind me of my late brother, who flew a few hundred combat
hours in Dustoff UH-1D/H models in Vietnam and returned to the US
where he spent a couple of years as a paramedic for a municipal fire
department and flying for the Guard until he went back to aviation as
a career. He was thirteen years older than I was, and I still remember
at about the age of 16 or so, when I wanted the independence of my own
transportation (but knew the parents were not going to let me have my
own car), deciding that maybe I could afford a motorcycle. Having
picked up the leavin's of more than a few suicide jockeys during his
time, he put his arm around my neck and quietly told me, "Sure, you
can get a motorcycle--but if you do, I am going to break every bone in
your body and save Mom and Dad the worry of waiting for some cop to
deliver the news to them that you killed yourself on that bike." I
never did get that bike.

Brooks


Gordon

  #32  
Old October 13th 03, 03:19 AM
Kevin Brooks
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nt (Gordon) wrote in message ...
Small GA is less safe than operating a motorcycle, on the road. (US)


Seriously? I've seen a heck of a lot more downed motorcycles than GA a/c.

What
you were doing was never the safest thing.


I'm supposed to raise him, not keep him in a bubble. For years he's stood by
the runway, watching me step out of various aircraft with a giant-sized
s-eating grin on my face, telling him, "Sorry, you aren't tall enough for this
ride." Under the tutetage of a 7,000-hour TWA Captain in his personal
aircraft, meticulously maintained since he purchased it in 1976, it seemed a
more responsible than handing him to a leather-clad biker on a Ninja.

What would she say if you let
him go as a passenger on a motorcycle?


My son and I have a deal - he never gets on a motorcycle while I am alive, and
in return, I will never break his legs. The worst moment of my life has been
telling parents that their son was killed on his bike (hit by dozens of cars at
the I-5/I-8 interchange). I can't protect him from life, but I couldn't take
re-living that particular moment from other side of the desk.


LOL! You remind me of my late brother, who flew a few hundred combat
hours in Dustoff UH-1D/H models in Vietnam and returned to the US
where he spent a couple of years as a paramedic for a municipal fire
department and flying for the Guard until he went back to aviation as
a career. He was thirteen years older than I was, and I still remember
at about the age of 16 or so, when I wanted the independence of my own
transportation (but knew the parents were not going to let me have my
own car), deciding that maybe I could afford a motorcycle. Having
picked up the leavin's of more than a few suicide jockeys during his
time, he put his arm around my neck and quietly told me, "Sure, you
can get a motorcycle--but if you do, I am going to break every bone in
your body and save Mom and Dad the worry of waiting for some cop to
deliver the news to them that you killed yourself on that bike." I
never did get that bike.

Brooks


Gordon

  #33  
Old October 13th 03, 03:19 AM
Kevin Brooks
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nt (Gordon) wrote in message ...
Small GA is less safe than operating a motorcycle, on the road. (US)


Seriously? I've seen a heck of a lot more downed motorcycles than GA a/c.

What
you were doing was never the safest thing.


I'm supposed to raise him, not keep him in a bubble. For years he's stood by
the runway, watching me step out of various aircraft with a giant-sized
s-eating grin on my face, telling him, "Sorry, you aren't tall enough for this
ride." Under the tutetage of a 7,000-hour TWA Captain in his personal
aircraft, meticulously maintained since he purchased it in 1976, it seemed a
more responsible than handing him to a leather-clad biker on a Ninja.

What would she say if you let
him go as a passenger on a motorcycle?


My son and I have a deal - he never gets on a motorcycle while I am alive, and
in return, I will never break his legs. The worst moment of my life has been
telling parents that their son was killed on his bike (hit by dozens of cars at
the I-5/I-8 interchange). I can't protect him from life, but I couldn't take
re-living that particular moment from other side of the desk.


LOL! You remind me of my late brother, who flew a few hundred combat
hours in Dustoff UH-1D/H models in Vietnam and returned to the US
where he spent a couple of years as a paramedic for a municipal fire
department and flying for the Guard until he went back to aviation as
a career. He was thirteen years older than I was, and I still remember
at about the age of 16 or so, when I wanted the independence of my own
transportation (but knew the parents were not going to let me have my
own car), deciding that maybe I could afford a motorcycle. Having
picked up the leavin's of more than a few suicide jockeys during his
time, he put his arm around my neck and quietly told me, "Sure, you
can get a motorcycle--but if you do, I am going to break every bone in
your body and save Mom and Dad the worry of waiting for some cop to
deliver the news to them that you killed yourself on that bike." I
never did get that bike.

Brooks


Gordon

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Old October 13th 03, 04:15 AM
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Mike Marron wrote:

(Gordon) wrote:


I don't believe I claimed Chuck started it - but the certificate, auto-penned
by him and with his name right next to the program name, sure makes it appear
that he has a bit more to do with it than Cliff presently. Perhaps the reason
why is that folks automatically associate Chuck with flight, and, no slam
against Cliff, he is known primarily for his acting.


No argument here and appears you're itching for a fight for whatever
reason. I just stating a simple fact that Yeager didn't initiate the
Young Eagle's program.


Mike, you have this large chip on your shoulder which is really
doing you a big disservice you know.

Can you not see that?...just try going back over these two
excerpts...Gordon mentions Chuck Y. in relation to a great
experience that his son has had, you leap onto that statement
saying "Chuck didn't 'start this service' (which nobody claimed
anyway). Then YOU accuse HIM of "itching for a fight"...y'know,
it's almost funny. You're itching so badly for a fight yourself
and yet have the temerity to accuse someone else of it.

Can't you see that?...I assure you that it's quite visible, and
quite unbecoming too.

Some of us are wondering what (probably mistaken) sense of
inadequacy is causing this.

Is it anything that you'd like to discuss?...

(...just because your 'aircraft' is tiny doesn't mean that you,
as a person, aren't 'up to snuff'...)

snork...snif

Sorry, please excuse me.
--

-Gord.
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Old October 13th 03, 06:45 AM
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"Gordon" a écrit dans le message de
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Did it look anything like that? :

http://caea.free.fr/fr/coll/broussard.html


That's it! Hope it wasn't mangled too badly..


Me too. I didn't even know there were some Broussards - which name BTW means
in English 'Bush-man', a rather ironic name nowadays for a French-built
aircraft!... :-) - in the US and I hope that it will be able to fly again
some day.

Thanks, Arva. As soon as the image loaded, my son said, "That's it!"


Glad to help.

Regards,
ArVa


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Old October 13th 03, 04:01 PM
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(Gordon) wrote:

[SNIP]

Thanks for the Trike World update.


You're welcome. Thanks for the the update on your local EAA
chapter's get-together. Truly warmed the cockles of our little hearts.

BTW, you seem to be insinuating that it's perfectly appropriate for
Gordon to post off-topic chit chat all day long on this NG but not me
simply because I own a trike. For your military enlightenment, below
is a link depicting Gus Grissom and Milt Thompson standing next to an
early trike at NASA's Dryden Flight Research Center:

http://members.lycos.co.uk/hglide/Aus.htm

The Trike World is forever indebted to all the outstanding NASA and
military aviators for their early contributions to weightshift,
flexwing aviation.

I'm going off to thank the folks that read my first post and simply gave
me good info in return.


You're welcome, again. Ya' gotta' admit that it wasn't exactly clear
if you simply wanted to chit chat about your local EAA weenie roast
or if you really were seeking information as you claim.

You said:

"Looked like a Beaver that had been rear-ended by a Potez...
Single engine, shoulder wing, tail of a ... well.. a Potez or Leo -
some kind of twin tail that sure looked out of place on the little
4-6 seater."




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Old October 13th 03, 04:32 PM
Mike Marron
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("Gord_Beaman") wrote:

(...just because your 'aircraft' is tiny doesn't mean that you,
as a person, aren't 'up to snuff'...)


Careful Gord, your ignorance is showing again. The wingspan
on my bird is almost 40-ft. wide and she stands more than 13-ft.
tall! In other words, she barely fits (or doesn't fit) in most hangars
built for GA planes.

  #38  
Old October 13th 03, 06:13 PM
Gordon
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That's it! Hope it wasn't mangled too badly..

Me too. I didn't even know there were some Broussards - which name BTW means
in English 'Bush-man', a rather ironic name nowadays for a French-built
aircraft!... :-) - in the US and I hope that it will be able to fly again
some day.


I think it will - the back didn't break and it seemed that the damage was
localized to the gear although it was hard to tell through a 300mm lens (it
spun about 400 yards away from us). I've never seen a bird like it and I hope
it was not destroyed as it had to be quite rare.

I did get a laugh out of the name translating into "Bush-man". That rules out
ME ever flying in it!

v/r
Gordon
====(A+C====
USN SAR Aircrew

"Got anything on your radar, SENSO?"
"Nothing but my forehead, sir."
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Old October 13th 03, 06:22 PM
Gordon
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You remind me of my late brother, who flew a few hundred combat
hours in Dustoff UH-1D/H models in Vietnam


snip rest

I would be deeply honored to be anything at all like your brother. Dustoff
guys, to me, earned a seat next to Mother Teresa on the Holy outbound bus.

By the way, I'm glad to see that someone with his background agrees - I loved
motorcycles in my childhood, but lost that love while laying under a frickin'
Toyota, kicking the door in with my free foot. Its not so much that I hate
motorcycles, I can't stand the cycle/car "interface"!!

v/r
Gordon
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Old October 13th 03, 07:11 PM
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"Gordon" wrote in message
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You remind me of my late brother, who flew a few hundred combat
hours in Dustoff UH-1D/H models in Vietnam


snip rest

I would be deeply honored to be anything at all like your brother.

Dustoff
guys, to me, earned a seat next to Mother Teresa on the Holy outbound bus.

By the way, I'm glad to see that someone with his background agrees - I

loved
motorcycles in my childhood, but lost that love while laying under a

frickin'
Toyota, kicking the door in with my free foot. Its not so much that I

hate
motorcycles, I can't stand the cycle/car "interface"!!


Hey, I was just supporting your wife's correct intuition. I rode those
hardly diddlesons for 20 years and it was a lot of fun.


 




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