Speaking of D.B. Cooper...

Bertie

Your story reminds me of another true one )

Had been flying the P-51 and the relief tube was just a cone like you
describe. Used on many occasions and never had it freeze up.

Transitioned to the P-80 and on a early flight had the urge. Pulled
the cone out from under the seat and started to use and it rapidly
filled up which necessitated a rapid stop of flow with all of its
problems. Wiggled the hose around to see if it was pinched and still
had a full cone in my left hand. Flew to home plate that way and
retarded the throttle with my elbow and landed and taxied in. Crew
Chief jumped on wing and I said, you need to fix this relief tube.
It's clogged.

He took it an there was a little metal lever on the side which he
pushed and the cone drained on ramp. He then explained to me that in a
pressurized cockpit the relief tube had to have a valve in it or
cockpit pressure would bleed out relief tube.

During future uses of tube, I found that I could depress the lever and
the cockpit pressure going out would collect the liquid from about 6
inches above cone. Of course you had to be careful that your 'tool'
didn't get too close with the valve open or it could get sucked in.
Ouch! (

Now in my Mooney with 7 1/2 hours of fuel (built in fuselage tank) I
had a coffee can with a plastic lid. Worked fine every time )

Big John

************************************************** *****



I had to pee bad into one of this ice cream cones attached to a
ventura on the belly of a twin Beech once. Problem was, it was iced up
and the damned thing was blowing instead of sucking. Of course, once
you start....

Bertie

Big John wrote:
Bertie

Your story reminds me of another true one )

Had been flying the P-51 and the relief tube was just a cone like you
describe. Used on many occasions and never had it freeze up.

Transitioned to the P-80 and on a early flight had the urge. Pulled
the cone out from under the seat and started to use and it rapidly
filled up which necessitated a rapid stop of flow with all of its
problems. Wiggled the hose around to see if it was pinched and still
had a full cone in my left hand. Flew to home plate that way and
retarded the throttle with my elbow and landed and taxied in. Crew
Chief jumped on wing and I said, you need to fix this relief tube.
It's clogged.

He took it an there was a little metal lever on the side which he
pushed and the cone drained on ramp. He then explained to me that in a
pressurized cockpit the relief tube had to have a valve in it or
cockpit pressure would bleed out relief tube.

During future uses of tube, I found that I could depress the lever and
the cockpit pressure going out would collect the liquid from about 6
inches above cone. Of course you had to be careful that your 'tool'
didn't get too close with the valve open or it could get sucked in.
Ouch! (

Now in my Mooney with 7 1/2 hours of fuel (built in fuselage tank) I
had a coffee can with a plastic lid. Worked fine every time )

Big John

************************************************** *****



I had to pee bad into one of this ice cream cones attached to a
ventura on the belly of a twin Beech once. Problem was, it was iced up
and the damned thing was blowing instead of sucking. Of course, once
you start....

Bertie

Hi John;

Who would have thought that between you, Bertie, and my, total flying
experience the three of us would end up here on Usenet discussing
****ing in a cup :-)))))))))))))))))))
Dudley

--
Dudley Henriques

"Tri-Pacer" wrote in message
. ..

"C J Seems some guy from Minnesota, Lyle Christansen, is convinced that
his
brother Kenny was D.B. Cooper.

No way.

DB Cooper is my ex-wife.

She had makeup and a man's suit on.

I've been telling the FBI that for years and they still refuse to lock her
up


This is getting ridiculous. Everyone knows that D.B Cooper was the fifth
gunman at the Grassy Knoll. He hijacked the plane to get money to pay off
his debts to Jimmy Hoffa. Sometime later he went into the witness
protection program, changed his name to Oliver Stone and now produces
historical documentaries. You can find all of this on the internet, so it
must be true.

On 2007-10-31 16:46:20 -0700, Dudley Henriques said:

C J Campbell wrote:
Seems some guy from Minnesota, Lyle Christansen, is convinced that his
brother Kenny was D.B. Cooper. Kenny Christansen is in fact a dead
ringer for Cooper, was an army paratrooper, bought a house in Buckley,
WA, with cash that he never explained where it came from, and he worked
for Northwest Airlines. On his deathbed he started to tell Lyle that
there was something he had done that Lyle should know, but then he died.

Kenny Christansen died in 1994 of cancer. The house is now a sign shop.

Last I heard, some woman in Florida said she discovered the man she was
married to for 20 years was Cooper. Don't know what ever happened to
this story.
My guess is that he went into one of those lakes that dot the
countryside where he baled, got tangled up in the shrouds and drowned.
I think someone found some of the money in a stream bed some time ago.
This one will hang in there with some of the other unsolved mysteries
of our time.
Perhaps someday it will get solved :-)

They found $6,000. Someday maybe they will find the rest. :-)
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

On 2007-10-31 17:52:32 -0700, Dudley Henriques said:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in news:xqadnfQMn-
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:
karl gruber wrote:
The Columbia River is hardly a "stream!"

Karl


"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...
C J Campbell wrote:
Seems some guy from Minnesota, Lyle Christansen, is convinced
that
his brother Kenny was D.B. Cooper. Kenny Christansen is in fact a
dead ringer for Cooper, was an army paratrooper, bought a house
in
Buckley, WA, with cash that he never explained where it came
from,
and he worked for Northwest Airlines. On his deathbed he started
to
tell Lyle that there was something he had done that Lyle should
know, but then he died.
Kenny Christansen died in 1994 of cancer. The house is now a sign
shop.
Last I heard, some woman in Florida said she discovered the man
she
was married to for 20 years was Cooper. Don't know what ever
happened to this story.
My guess is that he went into one of those lakes that dot the
countryside where he baled, got tangled up in the shrouds and
drowned. I think someone found some of the money in a stream bed
some time ago. This one will hang in there with some of the other
unsolved mysteries of our time.
Perhaps someday it will get solved :-)

--
Dudley Henriques
Ever seen the Amazon???

Or what beer made from rice will do to a wellused urinary tract?

Bertie
Ouch! That hurts. Pass me a cold one anyway!

Getting on so one can't fly more than 15 minutes from a place to pee.
Bertie
Being alone in the Mustang has it's good points :-)

Being in a C-130 with its own john had even better points. :-)
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

On 2007-10-31 20:39:31 -0700, Dudley Henriques said:

Big John wrote:
Bertie

Your story reminds me of another true one )

Had been flying the P-51 and the relief tube was just a cone like you
describe. Used on many occasions and never had it freeze up.

Transitioned to the P-80 and on a early flight had the urge. Pulled
the cone out from under the seat and started to use and it rapidly
filled up which necessitated a rapid stop of flow with all of its
problems. Wiggled the hose around to see if it was pinched and still
had a full cone in my left hand. Flew to home plate that way and
retarded the throttle with my elbow and landed and taxied in. Crew
Chief jumped on wing and I said, you need to fix this relief tube.
It's clogged.
He took it an there was a little metal lever on the side which he
pushed and the cone drained on ramp. He then explained to me that in a
pressurized cockpit the relief tube had to have a valve in it or
cockpit pressure would bleed out relief tube.

During future uses of tube, I found that I could depress the lever and
the cockpit pressure going out would collect the liquid from about 6
inches above cone. Of course you had to be careful that your 'tool'
didn't get too close with the valve open or it could get sucked in.
Ouch! (

Now in my Mooney with 7 1/2 hours of fuel (built in fuselage tank) I
had a coffee can with a plastic lid. Worked fine every time )

Big John

************************************************** *****



I had to pee bad into one of this ice cream cones attached to a
ventura on the belly of a twin Beech once. Problem was, it was iced up
and the damned thing was blowing instead of sucking. Of course, once
you start....
Bertie

Hi John;

Who would have thought that between you, Bertie, and my, total flying
experience the three of us would end up here on Usenet discussing
****ing in a cup :-)))))))))))))))))))
Dudley

Wonder what they use in flight simulators?
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

C J Campbell wrote:
On 2007-10-31 20:39:31 -0700, Dudley Henriques said:

Big John wrote:
Bertie

Your story reminds me of another true one )

Had been flying the P-51 and the relief tube was just a cone like you
describe. Used on many occasions and never had it freeze up.

Transitioned to the P-80 and on a early flight had the urge. Pulled
the cone out from under the seat and started to use and it rapidly
filled up which necessitated a rapid stop of flow with all of its
problems. Wiggled the hose around to see if it was pinched and still
had a full cone in my left hand. Flew to home plate that way and
retarded the throttle with my elbow and landed and taxied in. Crew
Chief jumped on wing and I said, you need to fix this relief tube.
It's clogged.
He took it an there was a little metal lever on the side which he
pushed and the cone drained on ramp. He then explained to me that in a
pressurized cockpit the relief tube had to have a valve in it or
cockpit pressure would bleed out relief tube.

During future uses of tube, I found that I could depress the lever and
the cockpit pressure going out would collect the liquid from about 6
inches above cone. Of course you had to be careful that your 'tool'
didn't get too close with the valve open or it could get sucked in.
Ouch! (

Now in my Mooney with 7 1/2 hours of fuel (built in fuselage tank) I
had a coffee can with a plastic lid. Worked fine every time )

Big John

************************************************** *****



I had to pee bad into one of this ice cream cones attached to a
ventura on the belly of a twin Beech once. Problem was, it was iced up
and the damned thing was blowing instead of sucking. Of course, once
you start....
Bertie

Hi John;

Who would have thought that between you, Bertie, and my, total flying
experience the three of us would end up here on Usenet discussing
****ing in a cup :-)))))))))))))))))))
Dudley

Wonder what they use in flight simulators?
I just put down my Jack Daniels, pause the program, and go upstairs.
When I get back, the cat has walked on the keyboard, hit the P key and
somehow finished the landing. :-)

--
Dudley Henriques

C J Campbell wrote:
On 2007-10-31 17:52:32 -0700, Dudley Henriques said:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in news:xqadnfQMn-
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:
karl gruber wrote:
The Columbia River is hardly a "stream!"

Karl


"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...
C J Campbell wrote:
Seems some guy from Minnesota, Lyle Christansen, is convinced
that
his brother Kenny was D.B. Cooper. Kenny Christansen is in fact a
dead ringer for Cooper, was an army paratrooper, bought a house
in
Buckley, WA, with cash that he never explained where it came
from,
and he worked for Northwest Airlines. On his deathbed he started
to
tell Lyle that there was something he had done that Lyle should
know, but then he died.
Kenny Christansen died in 1994 of cancer. The house is now a sign
shop.
Last I heard, some woman in Florida said she discovered the man
she
was married to for 20 years was Cooper. Don't know what ever
happened to this story.
My guess is that he went into one of those lakes that dot the
countryside where he baled, got tangled up in the shrouds and
drowned. I think someone found some of the money in a stream bed
some time ago. This one will hang in there with some of the other
unsolved mysteries of our time.
Perhaps someday it will get solved :-)

--
Dudley Henriques
Ever seen the Amazon???

Or what beer made from rice will do to a wellused urinary tract?

Bertie
Ouch! That hurts. Pass me a cold one anyway!

Getting on so one can't fly more than 15 minutes from a place to pee.
Bertie
Being alone in the Mustang has it's good points :-)

Being in a C-130 with its own john had even better points. :-)

You multi guys have all the goodies!! I have to admit, "Fat Albert" is
one hell of an airplane :-))

--
Dudley Henriques

Christopher

Probably use dipaers like the astronauts )

Big John
************************************************


Wonder what they use in flight simulators?

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:39:31 -0400, Dudley Henriques
wrote:

Big John wrote:
Bertie

Your story reminds me of another true one )

Had been flying the P-51 and the relief tube was just a cone like you
describe. Used on many occasions and never had it freeze up.

Transitioned to the P-80 and on a early flight had the urge. Pulled
the cone out from under the seat and started to use and it rapidly
filled up which necessitated a rapid stop of flow with all of its
problems. Wiggled the hose around to see if it was pinched and still
had a full cone in my left hand. Flew to home plate that way and
retarded the throttle with my elbow and landed and taxied in. Crew
Chief jumped on wing and I said, you need to fix this relief tube.
It's clogged.

He took it an there was a little metal lever on the side which he
pushed and the cone drained on ramp. He then explained to me that in a
pressurized cockpit the relief tube had to have a valve in it or
cockpit pressure would bleed out relief tube.

During future uses of tube, I found that I could depress the lever and
the cockpit pressure going out would collect the liquid from about 6
inches above cone. Of course you had to be careful that your 'tool'
didn't get too close with the valve open or it could get sucked in.
Ouch! (

Now in my Mooney with 7 1/2 hours of fuel (built in fuselage tank) I
had a coffee can with a plastic lid. Worked fine every time )

Big John

************************************************** *****



I had to pee bad into one of this ice cream cones attached to a
ventura on the belly of a twin Beech once. Problem was, it was iced up
and the damned thing was blowing instead of sucking. Of course, once
you start....

Bertie

Hi John;

Who would have thought that between you, Bertie, and my, total flying
experience the three of us would end up here on Usenet discussing
****ing in a cup :-)))))))))))))))))))
Dudley
************************************************** 88888

Dudley

We've told flying stories about everything else and that's all that's
left )

Big John