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On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:40:10 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Dec 16, 10:03 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Bertie the Bunyip wrote in news:Xns9A089F62B1341****upropeeh@
207.14.116.130:

Here's a pic of the Junior/Malmohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bolkow.junior.d-edna.arp.jpg

I couldn't find any site with the whole story of this troup of adventurers
and it's years since I read the story, so my account mightn't be 100%..

Bertie

Now that's airpower!

A short account of the aircraft itself is at:

http://www.vectorsite.net/avsa105.html#m5

Ron Wanttaja

"Dudley Henriques" wrote

The 51 was a fine airplane, and it worked well at all altitudes but it was
nearing the end of its run at the end of the war.
I loved the airplane and flew it often but for me, flying the F8F Bearcat
one sunny afternoon in December, redefined the meaning of the term "prop
fighter performance".
In my opinion, if the war had lingered on and the Bear had been mass
produced for both theaters, the F8F would have not seen its match
anywhere.

Interesting. I had never heard that expressed, before.

Would the F8F had the legs to do the long range bomber escort missions?

How about top speeds; was it as fast, or faster than the 51?
--
Jim in NC

On Dec 16, 10:35 am, (Paul Tomblin) wrote:

Can you name them? My wife and I were looking at Alaska cruises this
year, and the longer ones all seem to require you to fly on Alaska
Airlines at some point. I don't know about you, but I get the impression
that they didn't learn their lesson about shoddy maintenance after the
MD-80 jack screw crash, so I'm real reluctant to fly on them.

PT, Alaska may have some issues, but jack screws isnt one of them. The
entire industry learned alot from that accident.Have fun on the cruise
and remember, plenty of sunscreen.
FB

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Here's a pic of the Junior/Malmo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:B...d-edna.arp.jpg

I couldn't find any site with the whole story of this troup of adventurers
and it's years since I read the story, so my account mightn't be 100%..
That looks sorta kinda like the capro, (capra, capo, something like that)
Italian made planes of late, with the shoulder mounted wings.

I have often wondered why that configuration is not more popular. I've not
flown one, but it would seem like the visibility while flying level, turning
or anytime would be superior to high or low wings, than either upward or
downward views, depending whether it is high or low wing.
--
Jim in NC

On 2007-12-16 09:35:11 -0800, (Paul Tomblin) said:

In a previous article, Bertie the Bunyip said:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
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The airline situation is going to the dogs. It's actually getting to
the point now between the airlines, the FAA, and ATC, that I really
don't want my family to fly any more.


There's a couple I definitely wouldn't let my family on, though I sometimes
have to position on them, I really don't like it.


Can you name them? My wife and I were looking at Alaska cruises this
year, and the longer ones all seem to require you to fly on Alaska
Airlines at some point. I don't know about you, but I get the impression
that they didn't learn their lesson about shoddy maintenance after the
MD-80 jack screw crash, so I'm real reluctant to fly on them.

The only glitch we had this year was coming back into Vancouver B.C.
Our ship was a little late docking because another was delayed in
departure. We had to dash to the airport and hope that our bags caught
up with us. Our bags did not arrive in time for inspection and we had
to get into the extremely long security line. Finally our bags showed
up and I held our place in line while Jane got them checked.

When we got to the initial checkpoint they took our boarding passes and
passports, but then they did not give me Jane's boarding pass back.
They denied they had ever had it until finally someone found it under
the counter where it had fallen. Another long line for x-ray screening,
well over an hour.

Then finally a mad dash with just five minutes to spare before takeoff.
I get up to the gate and the lady tells me to be patient and wait my
turn (there was no one else at the gate desk). Finally she deigns to
tell me that we are on a 15 minute delay for maintenance and that they
had announced it and that I should have known about it. I bit my tongue
hard.

Another fifteen minuted delay. Another. Another. Another. Finally, we
get assigned to a different flight three hours later. So, yeah, Alaska
still has maintenance problems, but they are of the delay type, not the
"it's broke but let's fly it anyway" type. And I loathe TSA, US Customs
(the only part of Canada we were in was the bus trip from the ship to
the airport, but we had to go through all the paperwork anyway) and all
the other bureaucratic nonsense we had to put up with.

But the cruise was great.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

On 2007-12-16 07:47:04 -0800, "F. Baum" said:

On Dec 15, 9:49 pm, C J Campbell
wrote:

It is the same thing that the airlines are doing today: cannibalizing
all the instructors and worrying later about where the next generation
of pilots is going to come from. You wonder if the airlines will reach
the point where Germany was, trying to win the war, so to speak, with
just one pilot.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor- Hide quoted text -

What draws you to this conclusion ?
Do you fly at a regonal ?
FB

No. But I know that instructors are leaving the flight school before
they have been there a year. It takes two years of instructing before
you can make a new instructor. So I am the only one, now, and the boss
counts himself fortunate that I am there. But all the flight schools
are screaming for instructors and we can't train enough new ones with
the few that are left. Without instructors there are no new pilots. It
has reached the point where some flight schools are offering
instructors who stay (instead of going to the airlines) $59,000 a year
salary and a full benefits package.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

"Morgans" wrote in
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote in
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Here's a pic of the Junior/Malmo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:B...d-edna.arp.jpg

I couldn't find any site with the whole story of this troup of
adventurers and it's years since I read the story, so my account
mightn't be 100%..
That looks sorta kinda like the capro, (capra, capo, something like
that)
Italian made planes of late, with the shoulder mounted wings.


You don't mean the little Macchis from the fifties, do you? They were
high wing but kind of swept forwards.
Might be one of the new ultralights, Might even be a warmed over version
of the Malmo.
I know someone with a Bolkow built one he has been rebuilding for years
now, so I'll eventually get to fly one. his has an O 200 in it.
It, or a derivitive, was kitted in the UK as the ARV, I think, and was
available with a Wankel/Norton rotary engine. Don't know what became of
that, though.

I have often wondered why that configuration is not more popular.
I've not flown one, but it would seem like the visibility while flying
level, turning or anytime would be superior to high or low wings, than
either upward or downward views, depending whether it is high or low
wing.


It's a clever looking little airplane. I'd say it would e cheap enough
to make and might be a perfect LSA these days..


Bertie

"Morgans" wrote in
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote

The 51 was a fine airplane, and it worked well at all altitudes but
it was nearing the end of its run at the end of the war.
I loved the airplane and flew it often but for me, flying the F8F
Bearcat one sunny afternoon in December, redefined the meaning of the
term "prop fighter performance".
In my opinion, if the war had lingered on and the Bear had been mass
produced for both theaters, the F8F would have not seen its match
anywhere.

Interesting. I had never heard that expressed, before.

Would the F8F had the legs to do the long range bomber escort
missions?

How about top speeds; was it as fast, or faster than the 51?


Faster, I believe. It held the piston speed record with mods.
Range would have been about the same with drop tanks.
It could also beat any jet to 10,000 fee well into the seventies.

I'm with Dudley. this airplane was way sexier than the Mustang in my book.
I was sorely tempted to go down to Junior Burchinal's place and blow every
penny I had on a checkout in one at one stage, but probbly found something
else to blow it on!
I know someone who did just that though. He ended up dusting for Junior and
spent every dime on flying his mustang on weekends. He also got typed in
the B-17



Bertie

"C J Campbell" wrote

But all the flight schools are screaming for instructors and we can't
train enough new ones with the few that are left. Without instructors
there are no new pilots. It has reached the point where some flight
schools are offering instructors who stay (instead of going to the
airlines) $59,000 a year salary and a full benefits package.

If they keep that up, they will finally be able to keep a few, I'll bet.
Although it would hurt a little more to pay for instruction with that kind
of pay schedule, it would be great to have committed, fully qualified
instructors, instead of 100 hour wonders.
--
Jim in NC

On Dec 16, 1:42 pm, C J Campbell
wrote:

What draws you to this conclusion ?
Do you fly at a regonal ?
FB

No. But I know that instructors are leaving the flight school before
they have been there a year. It takes two years of instructing before
you can make a new instructor. So I am the only one, now, and the boss
counts himself fortunate that I am there. But all the flight schools
are screaming for instructors and we can't train enough new ones with
the few that are left. Without instructors there are no new pilots. It
has reached the point where some flight schools are offering
instructors who stay (instead of going to the airlines) $59,000 a year
salary and a full benefits package.

You bring up an exellent point, and I hope you are one of the
instructors making that much. The reason we have a shortage is because
of the low pay and working conditions over the years (For one of the
most important jobs in aviation). At 60 grand Id consider being an
instructor. Good luck,
FB