$16,619.85

I'm glad I'm on this side of the pond.

Me, too. My son finished his for right around $5K.

With a price differential that great, any European flight student
would be way ahead financially to simply rent a suite here while
attending our local flight school. We had a French fellow do that
here last spring, well before the run-up of the Euro; it makes even
more sense now.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck schrieb:

We had a French fellow do that
here last spring, well before the run-up of the Euro; it makes even
more sense now.

except for all the loops one has to jump through like fingerprinting,
visa (!), etc.
for a visa you have to show up in person at the embassy (earlier one was
able to do that by mail, BTDT), this costs you at least 1 day (including
"interviews"). for a student visa you need a M1, but if you go Part 61
the flight school is not able to issue the required papers (and you have
to chose your flight school beforehand, changes are close to impossible
now, BTDT, too). Then you need the fingerprinting and the flight school
has to report you to the government/FAA. Each involved party in this
process, including the immigration officer can make your plans go south.
Then - not flying related - you have to deal with the new sentiments
against foreigners.

So to sum it up: Canada or South Africa are a very good alternative.

#m

In a previous article, Martin Hotze said:
So to sum it up: Canada or South Africa are a very good alternative.

I know. I'm a Canadian citizen, but a permanent resident in the US. I've
gotten conflicting answers as to whether getting a float plane rating
counts as a new basic license (in which case I'd have to jump through all
the foreign pilot hoops) or an add-on to my existing ASEL (in which case I
don't). Depending on which answer is right, I might have to go up to
Georgian Bay Airways instead of going down to Jack Brown's.


--
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"I'm cruising down the Information Superhighway in high gear, surfing the
waves of the Digital Ocean, exploring the uncharted regions of Cyberspace.
Actually I'm sitting on my butt staring at a computer screen."

On Dec 29, 3:01*pm, (Paul Tomblin) wrote:
In a previous article, Martin Hotze said:

So to sum it up: Canada or South Africa are a very good alternative.



See for example:
http://www.harvsair.com/site/information/jaa-faq.html

These people have been doing flight training for many years, and claim
half the price of the same thing in Europe.

John Halpenny

Martin Hotze writes:

except for all the loops one has to jump through like fingerprinting,
visa (!), etc.
for a visa you have to show up in person at the embassy (earlier one was
able to do that by mail, BTDT), this costs you at least 1 day (including
"interviews"). for a student visa you need a M1, but if you go Part 61
the flight school is not able to issue the required papers (and you have
to chose your flight school beforehand, changes are close to impossible
now, BTDT, too). Then you need the fingerprinting and the flight school
has to report you to the government/FAA. Each involved party in this
process, including the immigration officer can make your plans go south.
Then - not flying related - you have to deal with the new sentiments
against foreigners.

Nevertheless, an aviation magazine here described getting an IR in the U.S. in
detail, and the pilot still came out ahead financially. He does have to fly a
U.S.-registered aircraft, but apparently he specifically registered his own in
the U.S., so he's all set to fly IFR in France, bypassing the crippling cost
and red tape of the French government for the most part.

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Martin Hotze writes:

except for all the loops one has to jump through like fingerprinting,
visa (!), etc.
for a visa you have to show up in person at the embassy (earlier one
was able to do that by mail, BTDT), this costs you at least 1 day
(including "interviews"). for a student visa you need a M1, but if
you go Part 61 the flight school is not able to issue the required
papers (and you have to chose your flight school beforehand, changes
are close to impossible now, BTDT, too). Then you need the
fingerprinting and the flight school has to report you to the
government/FAA. Each involved party in this process, including the
immigration officer can make your plans go south. Then - not flying
related - you have to deal with the new sentiments against
foreigners.

Nevertheless, an aviation magazine here described getting an IR in the
U.S. in detail, and the pilot still came out ahead financially. He
does have to fly a U.S.-registered aircraft, but apparently he
specifically registered his own in the U.S., so he's all set to fly
IFR in France, bypassing the crippling cost and red tape of the French
government for the most part.




Wrong again

Bertie

Jay Honeck wrote:
I'm glad I'm on this side of the pond.

Me, too. My son finished his for right around $5K.

With a price differential that great, any European flight student
would be way ahead financially to simply rent a suite here while
attending our local flight school. We had a French fellow do that
here last spring, well before the run-up of the Euro; it makes even
more sense now.

It is not just Europe but also Asia and lots of schools are already
addressing the off shore training market.

For example, there is a helicopter training outfit at KSBD that caters
to the Asian market; it is sometimes a challenge to understand what
the students in the pattern's position and intentions are.


--
Jim Pennino

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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 19:55:02 GMT, wrote:

it is sometimes a challenge to understand what
the students in the pattern's position and intentions are.

I was just going to say that... it happens almost every time I fly in
Texas, we seem to have quite a few schools that cater to overseas students.

I've learned to treat them as NORDO because their transmissions are
virtually useless.

--
Dallas

On Dec 29, 12:32*pm, Jay Honeck wrote:

With a price differential that great, any European flight student
would be way ahead financially to simply rent a suite here while
attending our local flight school. *We had a French fellow do that
here last spring, well before the run-up of the Euro; it makes even
more sense now.

Ha, another shameless plug for your motel.

Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

With a price differential that great, any European flight student
would be way ahead financially to simply rent a suite here while
attending our local flight school. We had a French fellow do that
here last spring, well before the run-up of the Euro; it makes even
more sense now.

The US is great for time building if you already have a license.. I
knew one Dutch national at my local airport who came over for a few
months and racked up all the hours he needed to go from a commercial
to an ATP and he told me it would have been far too expensive to do so
back home. I think the benefits disappear if you come purely for
primary PPL training since you would need $1000 for the airfare alone,
plus car rentals, apartment rentals etc which would probably add up to
more than the cost of a European PPL.