Cessna's response to negative feedback on Skycatcher being builtin China

You may want to look "research" again there are a handfull of private
prisons that require an inmate to be an Organ Donor. Not legal in
state/federal run facilities only prtivate in a select few states that allow
it. Go google it....

Also look here!!! wonder how much the prison/industrial complex would
gain....

http://www.wltx.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=47680


We also don't use our prisons as spare parts farms for organ transplants.

Advert's like this!!!

"Are you experiencing high employee turnover? Worried about the costs of
employee benefits? Unhappy with out-of-state or offshore suppliers? Getting
hit by overseas competition? Having trouble motivating your workforce?
Thinking about expansion space? Then Washington State Department of
Corrections Private Sector Partnerships is for you."

http://www.washingtonci.com/_content..._overview.aspx

Prisoners get no health care, substandard working conditions, pennies an
hour.... also look up Unicor and do some reading... here is what i found on
wage!

Unicor currently starts out at about $37.00 per month for 160-200 hours per
month.

That's 24 cents or less an hour sounds like a sweat shop wage to me.....

Slavery is legal and taking place in this country.... Most prisons are
privately owned and operated by corporations to make a profit. There are
more prisons then schools being built in this country. In today's America,
the prison/industrial complex has become the new plantation and the warden
has become the new overseer. This is Slavery!!!!

The 13th Amendment authorizes it, "Neither slavery nor involuntary
servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have
been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place
subject to their jurisdiction." The key word here is except!! and being
convicted of a crime "even a minor crime" in the United States is that
exception.

Prisons should be run by government not by private enterprise!!







"Gig601XLBuilder" wrote in message
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NW_Pilot wrote:
We use slave labor in prisons also......Not just china....


Wrong Wrong Wrong.

Prisoners in US are paid for their labor. In some cases paid pretty damn
well considering they are in there because they broke the law and are
supposed to be "paying their debt to society." Also, in most cases USAian
prisoners are not forced to work but opt to to earn credit/money for use
in the prison store, reduce or pay-off any fine/restitution they were
sentenced to pay, and to earn extra "good behavior" time.

I won't even get into the difference in why people are in prison in the US
as opposed to why they are in involuntary servitude in China but the
difference is significant.

For you to equate US prison labor programs to those of China shows you no
nothing about China or US prisons, are a knee-jerk anti-US idiot or just a
plain idiot.

NW_Pilot wrote:
Advert's like this!!!

"Are you experiencing high employee turnover? Worried about the costs of
employee benefits? Unhappy with out-of-state or offshore suppliers? Getting
hit by overseas competition? Having trouble motivating your workforce?
Thinking about expansion space? Then Washington State Department of
Corrections Private Sector Partnerships is for you."

http://www.washingtonci.com/_content..._overview.aspx

Prisoners get no health care, substandard working conditions, pennies an
hour.... also look up Unicor and do some reading... here is what i found on
wage!

Unicor currently starts out at about $37.00 per month for 160-200 hours per
month.

That's 24 cents or less an hour sounds like a sweat shop wage to me.....

Slavery is legal and taking place in this country.... Most prisons are
privately owned and operated by corporations to make a profit. There are
more prisons then schools being built in this country. In today's America,
the prison/industrial complex has become the new plantation and the warden
has become the new overseer. This is Slavery!!!!

The 13th Amendment authorizes it, "Neither slavery nor involuntary
servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have
been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place
subject to their jurisdiction." The key word here is except!! and being
convicted of a crime "even a minor crime" in the United States is that
exception.

Prisons should be run by government not by private enterprise!!



Slavery is legal in US prisons and it is in the 13th amendment BUT that
doesn't mean it is being used. If you would actually read the website
you posted you will see that the prisoners are paid and even how their
earnings are allocated under the Washington state program.

I love your comment about now health care for prisoners though. They get
that even if they DON'T work. Along with food, shelter and clothing.

"NW_Pilot" wrote

Prisons should be run by government not by private enterprise!!

What does it matter where they are put, if they were not convicted by
private enterprise.

Prisoners have it way too easy, as it is. Punishment for crime is losing
the freedom that other citizens have. That is the way it is supposed to
work.

If you were in jail, would you rather sit in your cell, bored out of your
skull, or do something like work, even for free, even if you had to pay to
work?

I know my answer would be to work. The day passes much more quickly when
you are occupied.

Sorry, but you are way off base on this one. Prisoners in the US are there
for good reason, and most all are multiple offenders, or else major felony
offenders. That is not the case in China. Far, far from it.
--
Jim in NC

Gig601XLBuilder,

I won't even get into the difference in why people are in prison in the
US as opposed to why they are in involuntary servitude in China but
the difference is significant.


Except when you count Gitmo.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Thomas Borchert wrote:
Gig601XLBuilder,

I won't even get into the difference in why people are in prison in the
US as opposed to why they are in involuntary servitude in China but
the difference is significant.


Except when you count Gitmo.


Gitmo isn't a US prison. It is a holding are for illegal enemy combatants.

On Jan 4, 2:13*pm, "NW_Pilot" wrote:

We use slave labor in prisons also......Not just china....

American prisoners are not inhumanely tortured to the point of death
for crimes such as being a Christian, dude.

Ricky

Ricky wrote in news:7fe7eae4-2bdc-4ae0-a324-
:

On Jan 4, 2:13*pm, "NW_Pilot" wrote
:

We use slave labor in prisons also......Not just china....

American prisoners are not inhumanely tortured to the point of death
for crimes such as being a Christian, dude.



Give them time and there will be torture for not being christian.


Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Ricky wrote in news:7fe7eae4-2bdc-4ae0-a324-
:

On Jan 4, 2:13 pm, "NW_Pilot" wrote
:

We use slave labor in prisons also......Not just china....
American prisoners are not inhumanely tortured to the point of death
for crimes such as being a Christian, dude.



Give them time and there will be torture for not being christian.

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition...

Gig601XLBuilder wrote:
http://www.cessnaskycatcher.com/home/124.html
I wonder if they will use lead paint.