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Old March 20th 08, 10:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote in message
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Very sad, you wonder if her record setting early life led to an
unfulfilling adult life, the downer after the high.


Not so, as she did not have a record-setting early life.


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Old March 20th 08, 10:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote in message
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That being said, I fully expect that her record breaking flights had more
to do with Momma and Papa's ambitions and dreams than anything she really
wanted to do. Just conjecture on my part....


She had no record-breaking flights.


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Old March 20th 08, 10:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Dan" wrote in message
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On Mar 20, 3:27 pm, "Maxwell" luv^2^fly^99@^cox.^net wrote:

Are you a psychiatrist?


Does it show?


Is that a yes, or a no.


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Old March 20th 08, 10:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt W. Barrow
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"Dan" wrote in message
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On Mar 20, 3:27 pm, "Maxwell" luv^2^fly^99@^cox.^net wrote:

Are you a psychiatrist?


Does it show?


Umm...Dan? He might be wondering if you're taking new patients.



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Old March 20th 08, 11:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dan[_10_]
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On Mar 20, 5:58 pm, "Matt W. Barrow"
wrote:

On Mar 20, 3:27 pm, "Maxwell" luv^2^fly^99@^cox.^net wrote:


Are you a psychiatrist?


Does it show?


Umm...Dan? He might be wondering if you're taking new patients.


No, There's a line right out the door...

And I don't take hopeless cases.


Dan Mc
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Old March 20th 08, 11:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Rich Ahrens[_2_]
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on 3/20/2008 2:27 PM Maxwell said the following:
"Dan" wrote in message
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On Mar 20, 1:00 pm, "Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote:
There lies the problem, if a commercial pilot was depressed but didn't
want
to lose his job he would most likely continue flying depressed and not
tell
anyone. It isn't a very good situation to put a person, either tell your
employer your problem and most likely lose your certificate so you can
get
on medication OR not tell anyone so you can keep flying, yet still be
depressed.

This logic is flawed, because it assumes:
1) that the person has no options then to continue flying depressed,
2) that antidepressants are mere "un-depressors" and therefore
relatively benign.

The CFRs prohibit a pilot who possesses a current medical certificate
from performing crewmember duties while the pilot has a known medical
condition or increase of a known medical condition that would make the
pilot unable to meet the standards for the medical certificate.

People who are clinically depressed have all sorts of short-circuits
in their thinking, prime among them a severe lack of interest in
consequences.

So "flying while depressed" or "hiding it" is illegal and stupid.

Masking these symptoms with antidepressants is not the long term
answer for pilots or non-pilots. Psychiatrists expect these drugs to
be used to help people through the depression until they are able to
work through the causations rationally.

Just because "lots of people" are popping these pills and "are ok"
does not warrant a change to the cautious approach of the CFRs.


Are you a psychiatrist?


Or a scientologist?
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Old March 21st 08, 12:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Phil J" wrote in message
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The article says she battled depression and opposed medication. It
doesn't say whether or not she was still flying, but I wonder if she
opposed medication because it would mean the loss of her pilot's
license.


Yeah, that could be. Pilots are still expected to just suck it up and
keep their mouths shut, which might be a tragic paradox. It suggests that
there might be suicidal people flying who might otherwise be safe and
treatable except they don't want that one last great thing taken from them.

-c


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Old March 21st 08, 12:03 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
gatt[_2_]
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Default Record-setting young pilot dies at 26


"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote in message
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There lies the problem, if a commercial pilot was depressed but didn't
want to lose his job he would most likely continue flying depressed and
not tell anyone.



Or, "self medicate."



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Old March 21st 08, 12:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dan[_10_]
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On Mar 20, 6:41 pm, Rich Ahrens wrote:

Or a scientologist?


Heaven forbid!!!
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Old March 21st 08, 02:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:06:26 -0700 (PDT), Dan wrote:

On Mar 20, 1:00 pm, "Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote:

There lies the problem, if a commercial pilot was depressed but didn't want
to lose his job he would most likely continue flying depressed and not tell
anyone. It isn't a very good situation to put a person, either tell your
employer your problem and most likely lose your certificate so you can get
on medication OR not tell anyone so you can keep flying, yet still be
depressed.


This logic is flawed, because it assumes:
1) that the person has no options then to continue flying depressed,


Ethically, professionally, morally, correct. Real world (economics), may
find this obviously incorrect.

2) that antidepressants are mere "un-depressors" and therefore
relatively benign.


Completely dependent on dosage, tolerances, pharmacology...
 




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