Pitch vs. trim in flight phases

Mxsmanic wrote:
Tina writes:

Perhaps the difference between the MSFS and reality is the notion of
adjusting trim to take pressure off the yoke is one of those 'it
doesn't matter in simulated flight' issues.

Some controls for use with the sim, including the Saitek X52 joystick that I
have, are spring loaded, and MSFS behaves in such a way that you must maintain
pressure against the springs if the aircraft isn't properly trimmed.

I don't know how that compares to the Saitek Aviator which is what I
use, but I'm thinking of removing the springs and replacing them with
stiffer ones to make it a bit more realistic.

-c

gatt wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:
Tina writes:

Perhaps the difference between the MSFS and reality is the notion of
adjusting trim to take pressure off the yoke is one of those 'it
doesn't matter in simulated flight' issues.

Some controls for use with the sim, including the Saitek X52 joystick
that I
have, are spring loaded, and MSFS behaves in such a way that you must
maintain
pressure against the springs if the aircraft isn't properly trimmed.

I don't know how that compares to the Saitek Aviator which is what I
use, but I'm thinking of removing the springs and replacing them with
stiffer ones to make it a bit more realistic.

-c

Ah yes......but at what airspeed? (slugs dynamic pressure vs unboosted
control surfaces :-))

--
Dudley Henriques

gatt writes:

I don't know how that compares to the Saitek Aviator which is what I
use, but I'm thinking of removing the springs and replacing them with
stiffer ones to make it a bit more realistic.

I'm sure there's some lack of realism, but I don't fly to feel control
pressures. I don't take an interest in the visceral sensations of flying.

I'm sure that the same pilots who enjoy flying in an open-cockpit biplane
built of cloth-covered wood probably wouldn't enjoy a desktop sim, because
they like physical sensations. However, pilots (and others) who like the
considerable intellectual exercise of flying and navigation might not care
about the physical effects, and indeed, for some (important) types of flying,
those physical sensations are not important.

If someone thinks that physical sensations are essential, I suggest he put on
a blindfold and see how long he can remain in straight and level flight with
those sensations alone.

I've lost track. Now I just fly the trim.

Mxsmanic wrote:
In a small GA aircraft, in which phases of flight will you normally use mostly
trim to adjust pitch, and in which phases will you normally mostly use the
yoke?