Maintaining VFR altitudes when following N/S roads/rivers

Wilhelm writes:

If you knew anything about the US regs, you wouldn't be asking the question.

I know a lot about the regulations, but perhaps you know more. In that case,
you can provide me with suggetsions.

Wilhelm writes:

If you are such a scholar on navigation, why are you asking dumb assed
questions?

If you know more about navigation, why aren't you answering them?

"Bob F." wrote in message
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"Dave S" wrote in message
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Why does everyone get on this guys case just because he doesn't fly? He
brings up some good typical student questions and some even us old
timers have to rethink.


Because he's never flown, doesnt WANT to fly, purports to know more than
those who do, and gives advice based on that.. all the while asking such
questions as above.

He's been asked not to do so. He's been asked to change his tact. His
antisocial tendencies overrule though...and he's a pest..

Maybe I'm like the blind man touching the elephant here since I don't have
a lot of experience with him. So maybe I'll play along for a while and see
how it goes.

--
Regards, Bob F.

You just sound like the latest sock puppet to me.

Do us all a favor and avoid his threads.

In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:

Anyway, back to the topic ... it's true that I can fly in the general
direction of a road instead of following it precisely, but I find that it's
easy to get so far away that it's hard to see the road any more. Some
Interstates will turn west for miles, and then turn east again, and so on.
They stay in one direction long enough to get away from you if you are trying
to keep an "average" heading, but if you turn you have to change altitude.
Climbing and descending 2000 feet every few minutes seems like a lot for a
small aircraft.

You fly towards the point where the road meets the horizon, or more
likely, since the horizon is over 80 miles away at 4500 AGL, fades
into the haze, which since you specified VFR, will be at least 3
miles away.

This is trivial to do in a real airplane.

If you can't do it in simulation, the simulation is the problem.


--
Jim Pennino

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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Wilhelm writes:

If you knew anything about the US regs, you wouldn't be asking the
question.

I know a lot about the regulations, but perhaps you know more. In that
case,
you can provide me with suggetsions.

Yeah, keep your hands in our pants, where they can't do any harm.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Wilhelm writes:

If you are such a scholar on navigation, why are you asking dumb assed
questions?

If you know more about navigation, why aren't you answering them?

Because I am absolutely certain, any real pilot already knows the answer,
and you are just trolling.

"Wilhelm" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in message
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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BT writes:

What you are doing is not pilotage.
Fly a straight line based on compass and wind correction computations.
Time between visual points, towns, bridges, etc to compute ground speed.
Correct the heading slightly based on "observations" from pilotage.

just following a meandering river or road is not pilotage.

Pilotage is supposedly navigation by visual landmarks, which presumably
includes roads and rivers. Successful pilotage implies that you can
navigate
with just the visual features and a chart. If you are using calculations
to
determine your position, it's more like dead reckoning. I do try to
navigate
that way, too, but periodically I like to practice navigation by visual
features on the land below alone.

If you are such a scholar on navigation, why are you asking dumb assed
questions?

If you just answer his DAQ then maybe the Newbies can benefit. Think of his
questions as elementary and now is an opportunity to help others....like
"why is he sky blue" or "where do babies come from". I went through a bunch
of his q's and although they are very juvenile and elementary, many in this
community got the answers wrong. So take the Q's as they are...you
know...when life hands you lemons...get a glass of gin, some ice and make
yourself a nice drink...or something like that. Iow, make the most of it
and use his q's to educate all those who are listening in. If you can't
answer his q's then please shut up and he'll go away.

--
Regards, Bob F.

"Bob F." wrote in message
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If you just answer his DAQ then maybe the Newbies can benefit. Think of
his questions as elementary and now is an opportunity to help
others....like "why is he sky blue" or "where do babies come from". I
went through a bunch of his q's and although they are very juvenile and
elementary, many in this community got the answers wrong. So take the Q's
as they are...you know...when life hands you lemons...get a glass of gin,
some ice and make yourself a nice drink...or something like that. Iow,
make the most of it and use his q's to educate all those who are listening
in. If you can't answer his q's then please shut up and he'll go away.

--
Regards, Bob F.

Go **** yourself Bob. You're either terminally stupid or a hopeless
sockpuppet.

wrote in message
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In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:

Anyway, back to the topic ... it's true that I can fly in the general
direction of a road instead of following it precisely, but I find that
it's
easy to get so far away that it's hard to see the road any more. Some
Interstates will turn west for miles, and then turn east again, and so
on.
They stay in one direction long enough to get away from you if you are
trying
to keep an "average" heading, but if you turn you have to change
altitude.
Climbing and descending 2000 feet every few minutes seems like a lot for
a
small aircraft.

You fly towards the point where the road meets the horizon, or more
likely, since the horizon is over 80 miles away at 4500 AGL, fades
into the haze, which since you specified VFR, will be at least 3
miles away.

This is trivial to do in a real airplane.

If you can't do it in simulation, the simulation is the problem.


--
Jim Pennino

Remove .spam.sux to reply.

Simulators have no problem handling this.

--
Regards, Bob F.

"Wilhelm" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in message
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"Bob F." wrote in message
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If you just answer his DAQ then maybe the Newbies can benefit. Think of
his questions as elementary and now is an opportunity to help
others....like "why is he sky blue" or "where do babies come from". I
went through a bunch of his q's and although they are very juvenile and
elementary, many in this community got the answers wrong. So take the
Q's as they are...you know...when life hands you lemons...get a glass of
gin, some ice and make yourself a nice drink...or something like that.
Iow, make the most of it and use his q's to educate all those who are
listening in. If you can't answer his q's then please shut up and he'll
go away.

--
Regards, Bob F.

Go **** yourself Bob. You're either terminally stupid or a hopeless
sockpuppet.


oh...now's here's a scholar that we would all like to imitate in the Western
World.

--
Regards, Bob F.