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  #481  
Old March 25th 04, 06:29 PM
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Doug Carter wrote:

Martin Hotze wrote:

Norway tops UN list over best places to live (...)


A UN list showing the U.S. in an unfavorable light? GASP!!

Better check your meds dude; this is the same U.N. that
appointed Lybia as the chair of the human rights commission.

"January 2003, The Libyan candidate, diplomat and former
journalist Najat al-Hajjaji, won 33 votes in a secret
ballot of the 53-country Commission, with 17 states
abstaining and three voting no -- apparently including the
United States."


So what's the problem? The US got to vote. If it didn't come out the way we
wanted, we have the opportunity to change it next time around. That's the
way it's supposed to work. What doesn't work is only going along with the
UN when one agrees with it. Rule of law and all that.

And besides, by putting someone like this in charge of the commission could
conceivably do more to foster human rights because of the extra scrutiny.

Diplomat, former journalist? I've never heard of him, does he have some
record of human rights abuse? Or does he have a history of speaking out
against oppression?

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  #482  
Old March 25th 04, 06:45 PM
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G.R. Patterson III wrote:

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As a C coder, I'm obsolete here. Everything is C++, Java, Perl, etc., and
it's not unusual for the skills list in an ad to require experience in
over ten specific systems and languages. They also want that to be
experience - more schooling only wastes your money. My database experience
is Informix and INGRES. They want Oracle. With employers getting literally
thousands of resumes for every position, they take only people who are a
perfect match for the job.


Wow, you sound like my alter ego in a parallel universe. I too was a C coder
and did database work with Informix and INGRES (and Progress). I see a very
similar situation here in Milwaukee.

Although I have a good, stable job at the moment, I would be hard pressed if
I had to go looking right now. Moving is not an option.

It's even worse for my brother. He was downsized a little more than 2 years
ago (he produced sales/training videos) and has found nothing steady in his
field. He's not really the type to strike out on his own and that's about
the only real chance he has right now.

The point is, this is typical of the situation in the NY/NJ area.
Unemployment is about 7%, most of it is white collar, and it really grates
to have someone try to tell the world that anyone who wants a job can have
one in the U.S.. Even Home Depot will refuse to hire someone with a
Master's degree, 'cause they're overqualified.

George Patterson
Battle, n; A method of untying with the teeth a political knot that
would
not yield to the tongue.



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Old March 25th 04, 06:46 PM
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In article , Frank writes:


Not all Arabs, specifically the ones that are interested in peace do not.
Hamas' support dries up as soon as this new state is created and the people
no longer have to pass thru Israeli checkpoints to get to work.



Since all the econimic activity is in Israel, and that is where the work is, a
Palestinian state will still mean passing through Israeli checkpoints to get to
work.

Don

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  #484  
Old March 25th 04, 06:46 PM
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In article , Frank writes:


So what's the problem? The US got to vote. If it didn't come out the way we
wanted, we have the opportunity to change it next time around. That's the
way it's supposed to work. What doesn't work is only going along with the
UN when one agrees with it. Rule of law and all that.


The 'problem' is that the US is a soveriegn country, not part of a world
democracy.

Don

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Old March 25th 04, 06:51 PM
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Tom Sixkiller wrote:

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One thing with the economy the last couple years is the amazing growth of
people going into self-employment. There was an article recently of (IIRC)
948,000 new businesses being started over the past months (don't recall
how many months).

Tom


How many were still in business after a year? I could see where rapid growth
in self-employment might be a symptom of a bad economy. After all, if there
are no employers hiring....



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Old March 25th 04, 07:09 PM
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Tom Sixkiller wrote:


"Newps" wrote in message
news:_ep8c.85864$_w.1143259@attbi_s53...


Martin Hotze wrote:



proof it.
give me some examples where or why people suffer (materially) more in

Austria,
Italy, Switzerland, Germany, France, UK, Australia than in the USA.


Well, let's look at houses:

When I was in college, as a bachelor, I had a bigger apartment than most
people in Wuopre had for raising a family.

A 2000 square foot, three bedrom house on a nice 1/4 acre lot is common
here; in Europe, that's a palace mostly for the aristocracy. Our
aristocracy is based on merit, not bloodlines.


You may want to be a little careful here. That house you describe is no
longer affordable unless you have 2 wage earners. When I started college
the norm was to have one parent stay home to raise the children. Today,
most are farmed out to surrogates.

Also, Europe does not have vast tracts of unused land next to cities to
parcel off into 1/4 acre lots.

Space is not the only criteria in judging quality of home life.

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  #487  
Old March 25th 04, 07:17 PM
Tom Sixkiller
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Jay Honeck wrote:

Can you take your skills independent?

The point is, this is typical of the situation in the NY/NJ area.

Unemployment is
about 7%, most of it is white collar, and it really grates to have someone

try to
tell the world that anyone who wants a job can have one in the U.S.. Even

Home
Depot will refuse to hire someone with a Master's degree, 'cause they're
overqualified.


Jay didn't say/infer you or anyone could have the job you WANT, or even your
old one. The world, you know very well, doesn't work like that.

Personally, I'd like to have the job of professional golfer, but I'm a bit
under-qualified for that one.

You might, though, find these two articles interesting as they pertain to
the telecomm industry.

http://www.manhattan-institute.org/h...mm-telecom.htm

http://www.law.uchicago.edu/news/eps...ransition.html


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Old March 25th 04, 07:24 PM
Tom Sixkiller
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"Frank" wrote in message ...
Doug Carter wrote:

Martin Hotze wrote:

Norway tops UN list over best places to live (...)


http://www.mises.org/fullstory.asp?control=955 (Sweden: Poorer Than You
Think )


A UN list showing the U.S. in an unfavorable light? GASP!!

Better check your meds dude; this is the same U.N. that
appointed Lybia as the chair of the human rights commission.

"January 2003, The Libyan candidate, diplomat and former
journalist Najat al-Hajjaji, won 33 votes in a secret
ballot of the 53-country Commission, with 17 states
abstaining and three voting no -- apparently including the
United States."


So what's the problem? The US got to vote. If it didn't come out the way

we
wanted, we have the opportunity to change it next time around. That's the
way it's supposed to work.


That's why the US does _NOT_ have direct democracy.

What doesn't work is only going along with the
UN when one agrees with it. Rule of law and all that.


Outsourcing Foreign Policy and "The International Community"
by Thomas Sowell (March 23, 2004)

http://capmag.com/articlePrint.asp?ID=3574

And besides, by putting someone like this in charge of the commission

could
conceivably do more to foster human rights because of the extra scrutiny.


You're not serious, are you?


Diplomat, former journalist? I've never heard of him, does he have some
record of human rights abuse? Or does he have a history of speaking out
against oppression?


From Libya? You're not serious, are you?



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Old March 25th 04, 07:26 PM
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Yeah, I've got one. There are no jobs in New Jersey for
a telecommunications systems engineer or C coder. Glad to
know things are doing so well in Iowa, but it sucks on this
side of the country.


Have you considered moving?


  #490  
Old March 25th 04, 07:28 PM
Tom Sixkiller
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"Frank" wrote in message ...
Tom Sixkiller wrote:


"Newps" wrote in message
news:_ep8c.85864$_w.1143259@attbi_s53...


Martin Hotze wrote:



proof it.
give me some examples where or why people suffer (materially) more in

Austria,
Italy, Switzerland, Germany, France, UK, Australia than in the USA.


Well, let's look at houses:

When I was in college, as a bachelor, I had a bigger apartment than most
people in Wuopre had for raising a family.

A 2000 square foot, three bedrom house on a nice 1/4 acre lot is common
here; in Europe, that's a palace mostly for the aristocracy. Our
aristocracy is based on merit, not bloodlines.


You may want to be a little careful here. That house you describe is no
longer affordable unless you have 2 wage earners.


(Non-sequitur)

And many DO it with one wage earner.

When I started college
the norm was to have one parent stay home to raise the children. Today,
most are farmed out to surrogates.


(Non-sequitur)

Also, Europe does not have vast tracts of unused land next to cities to
parcel off into 1/4 acre lots.


(Non-sequitur) You should work for the UN!

Space is not the only criteria in judging quality of home life.


But overcrowding certainly is. Matter of fact, it would be a primary
consideration...just not in the statist UN's eyes where everyone needs to be
watched.




 




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