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Old May 11th 04, 02:37 PM
Peter Stickney
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(B2431) writes:
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nt (Krztalizer)


So where would these mystery missiles be fired from? (And where would
the wreckage of their kills land?)


Hey stupid. You think america is just gonna let some terrorist drop
on the White House??? Your hate is matched only by your stupidity.


Yo, dork, you DO know some fool crashed a light aircraft into the White House
only a few years ago, right? If not, pay more attention in Civics class
tomorrow - you aren't getting your money's worth out of high school.

Why didn't we shoot that one down, genius?


There was also someone who tried to fly a UH-1 into the White House
back in the '70s, as well.

The funny part was after that happened people serously suggested keeping Secret
Service types on the roof of the White House armed with stingers. It was
discussed in this NG.


And universally derided as a Bad Idea. A small missile, like a
Stinger, isn't going to stop an airplane in its final dive - you'll
just get hit with a damaged airplane. (Or, if it misses the White
House, crash it into the heart of the city. _There's_ a delightful
prospect!) A more likely event is that any MANPADS/Avenger type stuff
fired in downtown D.C. would much rather track one of the zillions of
airliners around, rather than a fast-closing head-on, adn relatively
cool target. That gives you the yummy prospect of not only having had
somebody kamikaze the White House, but the Secret Service has just
shot down an airliner full of people. (Into downtown D.C., again)


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Pete Stickney
A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many
bad measures. -- Daniel Webster
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Old May 11th 04, 03:53 PM
Kevin Brooks
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"Peter Stickney" wrote in message
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In article ,
(B2431) writes:
From:
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So where would these mystery missiles be fired from? (And where would
the wreckage of their kills land?)


Hey stupid. You think america is just gonna let some terrorist drop
on the White House??? Your hate is matched only by your stupidity.


Yo, dork, you DO know some fool crashed a light aircraft into the White

House
only a few years ago, right? If not, pay more attention in Civics class
tomorrow - you aren't getting your money's worth out of high school.

Why didn't we shoot that one down, genius?


There was also someone who tried to fly a UH-1 into the White House
back in the '70s, as well.

The funny part was after that happened people serously suggested keeping

Secret
Service types on the roof of the White House armed with stingers. It was
discussed in this NG.


And universally derided as a Bad Idea. A small missile, like a
Stinger, isn't going to stop an airplane in its final dive - you'll
just get hit with a damaged airplane. (Or, if it misses the White
House, crash it into the heart of the city. _There's_ a delightful
prospect!) A more likely event is that any MANPADS/Avenger type stuff
fired in downtown D.C. would much rather track one of the zillions of
airliners around, rather than a fast-closing head-on, adn relatively
cool target. That gives you the yummy prospect of not only having had
somebody kamikaze the White House, but the Secret Service has just
shot down an airliner full of people. (Into downtown D.C., again)


Uhmmm--you do know that we do have Avengers emplaced downtown now? There was
a photo of one on a pedestal mount atop one of the buildings in downtown DC
that appeared in the press just a few months back?

Brooks



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Pete Stickney
A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many
bad measures. -- Daniel Webster



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Old May 11th 04, 04:10 PM
tim gueguen
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"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message
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It is rather odd that you think we could
successfully cover up such a Great Conspiracy, but felt it necessary to
publicly announce something like the recent Abu Ghraib prison situation.


Indeed. Plenty of Americans would likely have taken at face value claims
that reports of the abuse were greatly exaggerated or even made up.

tim gueguen 101867


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Old May 11th 04, 04:27 PM
Chris Manteuffel
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"Jim Knoyle" wrote in message ...

Hey, Paul, years ago they used to let us go up to the top of
the Washington Monument. I have several photos that I took
from those little windows. Could it be that they don't let visitors
climb to the top anymore because they would see the missles?


The Washington Monument is open for tourists again.

And I've driven all the way around the Pentagon in the last month;
during working hours you will see assorted Hummvee's on the perimeter,
but certainly none of this automated system, which sounds quite
dangerous, an automatic system so close to the busy DCA.

Chris Manteuffel
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Old May 11th 04, 04:40 PM
Jeb
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"Paul J. Adam" wrote in message ...
In message , Laura Bush
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The Pentagon is protected by a computerized system. When a plane
enters the pentagon protected space the computer automatically sends a
message to the plane demanding the pilot punch in a code allowing it
to enter the space. If that is not done within seconds, the plane is
automatically shot down with missiles


Actually, if the aircraft doesn't identify itself, it's snatched away by
tractor beams from Planet Zort.

Out of interest, where would these supposed missiles be fired from? And
where are their fire-control radars?

I greatly enjoyed a stay in the Doubletree Arlington a few years ago,
and my tenth-floor window looked out with a marvellous panorama across
DC: the Pentagon on the left, National / Reagan on the right, the
National Mall in the middle, and not a SAM radar nor launcher to be seen
in between.

So where would these mystery missiles be fired from? (And where would
the wreckage of their kills land?)

(I know, I know, no fair getting into a battle of wits with the
unarmed...)


Well, I've got about a half-dozen of them stored in my basement in
Alexandria, but darn it all, I was at work that morning. And I'm told
that we have a swimming pool buried in the common area behind my
neighbors across the street, too.
  #46  
Old May 11th 04, 05:10 PM
Peter Stickney
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In article ,
"Kevin Brooks" writes:

"Peter Stickney" wrote in message
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In article ,
(B2431) writes:
From:
nt (Krztalizer)


So where would these mystery missiles be fired from? (And where would
the wreckage of their kills land?)


Hey stupid. You think america is just gonna let some terrorist drop
on the White House??? Your hate is matched only by your stupidity.


Yo, dork, you DO know some fool crashed a light aircraft into the White

House
only a few years ago, right? If not, pay more attention in Civics class
tomorrow - you aren't getting your money's worth out of high school.

Why didn't we shoot that one down, genius?


There was also someone who tried to fly a UH-1 into the White House
back in the '70s, as well.

The funny part was after that happened people serously suggested keeping

Secret
Service types on the roof of the White House armed with stingers. It was
discussed in this NG.


And universally derided as a Bad Idea. A small missile, like a
Stinger, isn't going to stop an airplane in its final dive - you'll
just get hit with a damaged airplane. (Or, if it misses the White
House, crash it into the heart of the city. _There's_ a delightful
prospect!) A more likely event is that any MANPADS/Avenger type stuff
fired in downtown D.C. would much rather track one of the zillions of
airliners around, rather than a fast-closing head-on, adn relatively
cool target. That gives you the yummy prospect of not only having had
somebody kamikaze the White House, but the Secret Service has just
shot down an airliner full of people. (Into downtown D.C., again)


Uhmmm--you do know that we do have Avengers emplaced downtown now? There was
a photo of one on a pedestal mount atop one of the buildings in downtown DC
that appeared in the press just a few months back?


Yes, I know that. My comment about their efficacy still stands. It
does make some people feel better, I suppose.

--
Pete Stickney
A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many
bad measures. -- Daniel Webster
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Old May 11th 04, 09:06 PM
Paul J. Adam
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In message , Laura Bush
murdered her boy friend writes
On Mon, 10 May 2004 22:31:43 +0100, "Paul J. Adam"
wrote:
So where would these mystery missiles be fired from? (And where would
the wreckage of their kills land?)


Hey stupid. You think america is just gonna let some terrorist drop
on the White House??? Your hate is matched only by your stupidity.


You mean that various kooks and cranks *haven't* landed aircraft on the
White House lawn? It was all a mass hallucination?

And SAMs and airport approaches don't mix.

--
When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite.
W S Churchill

Paul J. Adam MainBoxatjrwlynch[dot]demon{dot}co(.)uk
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Old May 11th 04, 09:50 PM
james
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In article ,
Peter Kemp wrote:

All the remains of the aircraft are bulldozed into the Potomac - why
do you think you're not allowed to use private submarines on the
Potmac eh?


Not allowed to use private submarines on the Potomoc? Other watercraft
are allowed? How about scuba diving?
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Old May 11th 04, 10:15 PM
OXMORON1
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Fishbowl questioned the use of private submarines in the Potomac River:

Not allowed to use private submarines on the Potomoc? Other watercraft
are allowed? How about scuba diving?


Actually skinny dipping is preferred to private watercraft. It actually is
beneficial if you urinate in the river. Noted upgrade in water quality.

Oxmoron1
 




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