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Peter Hucker added these comments in the current discussion du
jour ... Patriotism is so childish. Well-founded patriotism is not childish nor is it old-fashioned. What is childish is the brand of national pride many countries practice far in excess of their accomplishments. Were it not for the United States and Great Britain, there would be no free Europe today. Were it not for the United States standing almost alone, western Europe would have been overrun by the Warsaw Pact. And today, were it not for the United States there would be no effective military to counter modern style agression. -- HP, aka Jerry Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet |
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"HEMI-Powered" wrote: Dave Whiley added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... HEMI-Powered wrote: What exactly does "the darker side of the world" mean? You can't be serious! I hardly think that the reference was to cloudy skies, it was clearly a transparent reference to our country being portrayed as evil, but tolerable just long enough to snap some pictures before going back to a place of enlightment on the other side of the pond, and frankly, the more rebuttals I read the more I feel this great country is being maligned by the very people who benefit from their relationship with us economically, politically, and militarily (for protection against a strategic threat). Good grief you are a moron, and a paranoid moron at that! |
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Peter Hucker wrote in
: On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:30:53 GMT, "Alan Erskine" wrote: "Sj" wrote in message . .. I sort of took it to mean that he traveled to the other side of the equator ... I have friends in Australia & often refer to it as the Land of Oz or the Land Down Under ... I say those words out of a liking & fondness for the country & it's people ... You can't be serious! Australia isn't 'below' anything! (couldn't resist). It's below the sky. And don't confuse the Americans. From Seattle, Oz is above its sky, or at least sorta up and to the right... - Confused American ^,,^ |
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Alan Erskine wrote:
"HEMI-Powered" wrote in message .. . Then, I would strong suggest all these folks that don't like us mount their own strategic, tactical and anti-terrorist defenses If it wasn't for the U.S., we wouldn't need an anti-terrorist defence. LOL! -- Moving things in still pictures! |
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"®i©ardo" wrote in message
... Alan Erskine wrote: If it wasn't for the U.S., we wouldn't need an anti-terrorist defence. LOL! Oh, but it's true; if the United States and the (then) Soviet Union hadn't spent the litterally *hundreds of billions of dollars* that took the form of military equipment, and instead built schools, hospitals, universities, water purification systems and.... good will.... we wouldn't have the organisations that think we are all the same - the U.S. and Australia. Instead, the U.S. has a memory problem - did you know that the Taliban were supported by the U.S.? And before that, the U.S. supported the Mujahadin? Also, it is to be remembered that in recent years, terrorism has struck Russia - Chechnya is only part of that and Chechnya is often the 'whipping-boy' of Russia, along with Georgia (as has been seen in recent weeks). There have been Soviet aircraft highjackings as well. Did you know that the U.K (United Kingdom) created Israel out of territory it had occupied for many years? Is it any wonder that 'we' are thrown in the same barrel as America? I'm not saying any of the decisions listed above were wrong, but if the U.S. in particular had not used the Middle East as a testing ground for its military equipment (remember the C-5 flights to 'support' Israel in the early '70's?), the rest of us would not be suffering as we are. 'We' suffer because we are friendly with America. Note that I say "friendly" - just like all most people are with their domestic neighbours - friendly, not necessarily friends. Now; Glenn was not being insulting to America as that idiot ("HEMI-Powered") suggested. That idiot has been in other groups doing the same thing - stirring up trouble for no other reason. Glenn was simply making a comment that he was not at home. Glenn wasn't referring to America, but all the countries he visited. It wasn't an insult, it was a joke. |
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On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:21:34 -0500, "HEMI-Powered"
wrote: Peter Hucker added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... Patriotism is so childish. Well-founded patriotism is not childish nor is it old-fashioned. What is childish is the brand of national pride many countries practice far in excess of their accomplishments. Were it not for the United States and Great Britain, there would be no free Europe today. Were it not for the United States standing almost alone, western Europe would have been overrun by the Warsaw Pact. And today, were it not for the United States there would be no effective military to counter modern style agression. What I haven't seen is the US using it's military very effectively in recent times. They've gone all soft. I can't believe you actually gave Hussein a trial! -- http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com What's the most sensitive part of your anatomy when you are masturbating? Your ears. |
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On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:20:02 GMT, Bob Harrington
wrote: Peter Hucker wrote in : On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:30:53 GMT, "Alan Erskine" wrote: "Sj" wrote in message ... I sort of took it to mean that he traveled to the other side of the equator ... I have friends in Australia & often refer to it as the Land of Oz or the Land Down Under ... I say those words out of a liking & fondness for the country & it's people ... You can't be serious! Australia isn't 'below' anything! (couldn't resist). It's below the sky. And don't confuse the Americans. From Seattle, Oz is above its sky, or at least sorta up and to the right... - Confused American ^,,^ "Up" means away from gravitational pull. -- http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com A Pan Am 727 flight waiting for start clearance in Munich overheard the following: Lufthansa (in German): "Ground, what is our start clearance time?" Ground (in English): "If you want an answer you must speak in English." Lufthansa (in English): "I am a German, flying a German aeroplane, in Germany. Why must I speak English?" Unknown voice from another plane (in a beautiful British accent): "Because you lost the bloody war." |
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Peter Hucker added these comments in the current discussion du
jour ... Well-founded patriotism is not childish nor is it old-fashioned. What is childish is the brand of national pride many countries practice far in excess of their accomplishments. Were it not for the United States and Great Britain, there would be no free Europe today. Were it not for the United States standing almost alone, western Europe would have been overrun by the Warsaw Pact. And today, were it not for the United States there would be no effective military to counter modern style agression. What I haven't seen is the US using it's military very effectively in recent times. They've gone all soft. I can't believe you actually gave Hussein a trial! If you mean Iraq, I'd agree that our military hasn't been used effective. But, the initial war in 2003 was over in only 3 weeks. And, I take great umbrage to foreigners who have no stake in this disparaging the brave men and women who wear our uniforms in the defense of freedom everywhere so I don't appreciate people who say we've gone soft. I judge by the tone of your reply that you're a foreigner. Fine. Now, how about discussing your country's recent successes and failures in the War on Terror. At best, no country in the coalition has deployed more than 5-10% of the US presence. As to Saddam, it is necessary for our allies and those who are neutral in the region to know that we stand for democracy and we stand for fairness. To have sumarily executed Saddam, which many of us would have preffered, would only serve to lower the United States to the level of its enemies. You may recall that a great deal of effort was taken by the Allies in WWII at both Nuremburg and in trials for the Japs. That is necessary for countries that want to claim that they are fair even to their enemies. As to the rest of the world's military, outside Russia and China, and maybe North Korea, the Western democracies have all gutted their armies, navies, and air forces in order to save money and divert it into social programs they deem more important. What I wonder about is what would happen if the Eiffel Tower or Big Ben were destroyed as was the World Trade Center. France and Great Britain no longer have long-range strategic armed forces to counter such a threat which leads most observers to think that they can rely on the United States. If Sen. McCain is elected president in November, there's a chance our allies could count on us to help them if they're attacked but if Sen. Obama becomes president, I think we can rely on him gutting the military by tens of billions of dollars, recalling troops from all over the world, and attempting to talk our enemies down. Again, like Europe's Socialist states, Obama would do this - and he has promised to do so for over a year - and he would attempt to pay for his Big Government cradle to grave programs with the presumed savings from gutting our military. If history has shown us anything at all, it is that maintaining a strong military is of paramont importance to deterring attacks or major agression either on the United States per se or in any of the world's hot spots. -- HP, aka Jerry Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet |
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"Peter Hucker" wrote I can't believe you actually gave Hussein a trial! I believe that it was Iraq that gave him a trial, not the US. They would really like Iraq to stand on its own two feet. Of course, they would like them to be democratic, secular feet, with a few military bases in the country, too. ;-) -- Jim in NC |
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Morgans wrote:
"Peter Hucker" wrote I can't believe you actually gave Hussein a trial! I believe that it was Iraq that gave him a trial, not the US. They would really like Iraq to stand on its own two feet. Of course, they would like them to be democratic, secular feet, with a few military bases in the country, too. ;-) Shh, don't mention the oil and gas reserves! -- Moving things in still pictures! |
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