Yep - 9-11 attacks predicted in 1994

"Michael O'Niell" wrote in message
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Yardpilot wrote:

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 18:42:46 -0700, "RD (The Sandman)"
wrote:

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

That's when tom clancy published his popular novel "Debt of Honor"
about terrorists flying a fuel-laden jet into the Capitol Building.

It was about *one* disgruntled pilot for a Japanese airline.

Now you know why condoleeza rice and others in the bush gang don't
want to testify to the 9-11 panel. Condi told us after 9-11 that no
one could have imagined such a thing could happen!!!! Sheeiiiit -
millions of americans were aware of this threat.

But they didn't know when or where or how. Makes it a little
difficult
to put too many preventative measures in place.

That's not the point, you illogical loony. My complaint is with condi
saying that no one had ever imagined the idea of flying fuel-laden
jets into buildings. That was a shameless lie by condi.

She was referring to reality, a condition with which you are not
familiar. BTW,
I know of a plot to ram the Earth with a Galaxy Class Starship
travelling at
lightspeed. Defend or die!

The concept makes the reality.

Have you learnt nothing in your short life?


He, and I, are likely older than you. There were a multitude of
possiblities, far above what could be prepared for with any seriousness. We
knew, for example, that Al Qaeda had an affinity for blowing up buildings.
Do you have any concept of the complex nature of air traffic over America on
a daily basis? there are thousands of aircraft in the air at any given
moment.

Looking at the devistating effect of shutting down the airways for a short
period after 9-11, can you honestly state that adversely affecting air
traffic prior to 9-11 based on a heightened probability that something MIGHT
happen somewhere in the USA at some unknown date, to some unknown target,
would have been greeted well by Americans?

Basically, you're easy chair quarterbacking with obscured hindsight driven
ny erroneous information proffered by people with an agenda to grind.

-*MORT*-

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L'an mil neuf cent nonante neuf sept mois,
Du ciel viendra un grand Roi d'effrayeur:
Ressusciter le grand Roi d'Angolmois,
Avant après Mars regner par bonheur.


In the year 1999, in the sept month,
from the sky will come the great King of Terror,
bringing back to life the great King of the Mongols.
Before and after, Mars to reign by good fortune.

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Since we have been warned since 1522
Why did George Washington take actions
to stop the 9/11 attacks! Or Ol' Abe ..

But no.. with the above warning not one
President in the past 220 years took direct actions
to protect our people from the 9/11 attacks..

It's a scandle I tell you....

" RD (The Sandman) wrote:
But they didn't know when or where or how. Makes it a little difficult
to put too many preventative measures in place.

snicker
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/...p?story=507514

Sibel Edmonds said she spent more than three hours in a closed session with
the commission's investigators providing information that was circulating
within the FBI in the spring and summer of 2001 suggesting that an attack
using aircraft was just months away and the terrorists were in place. The
Bush administration, meanwhile, has sought to silence her and has obtained a
gagging order from a court by citing the rarely used "state secrets
privilege".

She told The Independent yesterday: "I gave [the commission] details of
specific investigation files, the specific dates, specific target
information, specific managers in charge of the investigation. I gave them
everything so that they could go back and follow up. This is not hearsay.
These are things that are documented. These things can be established very
easily."



FCC Edit Bush that piece of FCC Edit liar and those around him setting
his policy's on National Security and the WOT. The fairytale is over!

"copertopkiller" wrote in message
et...

" RD (The Sandman) wrote:
But they didn't know when or where or how. Makes it a little difficult
to put too many preventative measures in place.

snicker
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/...p?story=507514

Sibel Edmonds said she spent more than three hours in a closed session
with
the commission's investigators providing information that was circulating
within the FBI in the spring and summer of 2001 suggesting that an attack
using aircraft was just months away and the terrorists were in place. The
Bush administration, meanwhile, has sought to silence her and has obtained
a
gagging order from a court by citing the rarely used "state secrets
privilege".

"State secrets privilege"??! Oh, boy--another alt-whacko type uncloaks...
*Plonk*

Brooks


She told The Independent yesterday: "I gave [the commission] details of
specific investigation files, the specific dates, specific target
information, specific managers in charge of the investigation. I gave them
everything so that they could go back and follow up. This is not hearsay.
These are things that are documented. These things can be established very
easily."



FCC Edit Bush that piece of FCC Edit liar and those around him setting
his policy's on National Security and the WOT. The fairytale is over!

"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message
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"copertopkiller" wrote in message
et...

" RD (The Sandman) wrote:
But they didn't know when or where or how. Makes it a little
difficult
to put too many preventative measures in place.

snicker
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/...p?story=507514

Sibel Edmonds said she spent more than three hours in a closed session
with
the commission's investigators providing information that was
circulating
within the FBI in the spring and summer of 2001 suggesting that an
attack
using aircraft was just months away and the terrorists were in place.
The
Bush administration, meanwhile, has sought to silence her and has
obtained
a
gagging order from a court by citing the rarely used "state secrets
privilege".

"State secrets privilege"??! Oh, boy--another alt-whacko type uncloaks...
*Plonk*

Brooks

Plonk your head against a wall: Check a federal Judges Ruling in 1996. It
was a hazardous waste lawsuit about/at Groom Lake, which is in appeals as
of, now.

Another uninformed idiot who knows no facts.

"Morton Davis" wrote in message
news:0Zdcc.190762$Cb.1728265@attbi_s51...

"Michael O'Niell" wrote in message
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Yardpilot wrote:

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 18:42:46 -0700, "RD (The Sandman)"
wrote:

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

That's when tom clancy published his popular novel "Debt of Honor"
about terrorists flying a fuel-laden jet into the Capitol Building.

It was about *one* disgruntled pilot for a Japanese airline.

Now you know why condoleeza rice and others in the bush gang don't
want to testify to the 9-11 panel. Condi told us after 9-11 that no
one could have imagined such a thing could happen!!!! Sheeiiiit -
millions of americans were aware of this threat.

But they didn't know when or where or how. Makes it a little
difficult
to put too many preventative measures in place.

That's not the point, you illogical loony. My complaint is with condi
saying that no one had ever imagined the idea of flying fuel-laden
jets into buildings. That was a shameless lie by condi.

She was referring to reality, a condition with which you are not
familiar. BTW,
I know of a plot to ram the Earth with a Galaxy Class Starship
travelling at
lightspeed. Defend or die!

The concept makes the reality.

Have you learnt nothing in your short life?


He, and I, are likely older than you. There were a multitude of
possiblities, far above what could be prepared for with any seriousness. We
knew, for example, that Al Qaeda had an affinity for blowing up buildings.
Do you have any concept of the complex nature of air traffic over America on
a daily basis? there are thousands of aircraft in the air at any given
moment.

Looking at the devistating effect of shutting down the airways for a short
period after 9-11, can you honestly state that adversely affecting air
traffic prior to 9-11 based on a heightened probability that something MIGHT
happen somewhere in the USA at some unknown date, to some unknown target,
would have been greeted well by Americans?

Basically, you're easy chair quarterbacking with obscured hindsight driven
ny erroneous information proffered by people with an agenda to grind.

Yup. "Well they SHOULDA..." seems to be one of the current catch phrases.
Evidently they think a great deal of Bush, and expected him to do in eight
months what Clinton didn't do in eight years.

"copertopkiller" wrote in message
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"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message
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"copertopkiller" wrote in message
et...

" RD (The Sandman) wrote:
But they didn't know when or where or how. Makes it a little
difficult
to put too many preventative measures in place.

snicker
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/...p?story=507514

Sibel Edmonds said she spent more than three hours in a closed session
with
the commission's investigators providing information that was
circulating
within the FBI in the spring and summer of 2001 suggesting that an
attack
using aircraft was just months away and the terrorists were in place.
The
Bush administration, meanwhile, has sought to silence her and has
obtained
a
gagging order from a court by citing the rarely used "state secrets
privilege".

"State secrets privilege"??! Oh, boy--another alt-whacko type
uncloaks...
*Plonk*

Brooks

Plonk your head against a wall: Check a federal Judges Ruling in 1996. It
was a hazardous waste lawsuit about/at Groom Lake, which is in appeals as
of, now.

Another uninformed idiot who knows no facts.

Your unsubstantiated bull**** does not constitute fact.

-*MORT*-

"George Z. Bush" wrote in message
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Nick Hull wrote:
In article ,
Michael O'Niell wrote:

Al Dykes wrote:

IMHO the airlines are the people that allowed 9/11 to happen. For
years the FAA had been asking the airlines to put locks on the cockpit
door, like the Israelies do. snip

Both the airlines and FAA are to blame; armed pilots could have stopped
9-11 cold.

The FAA asked? Whatever happened to mandatory regulations? Out of fashion
for
the FAA? If they thought it was needed, they could have ordered it, along
with
the myriad of other mundane things they order the aviation community to comply
with.

They ordered pilots NOT to carry guns. Many once did. In fact, some airlines
used to issue them. They aren't known for the sanity of the orders they issue.

On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 15:22:10 GMT, "copertopkiller"
wrote:


" RD (The Sandman) wrote:
But they didn't know when or where or how. Makes it a little difficult
to put too many preventative measures in place.

snicker
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/...p?story=507514

Sibel Edmonds said she spent more than three hours in a closed session with
the commission's investigators providing information that was circulating
within the FBI in the spring and summer of 2001 suggesting that an attack
using aircraft was just months away and the terrorists were in place. The
Bush administration, meanwhile, has sought to silence her and has obtained a
gagging order from a court by citing the rarely used "state secrets
privilege".

She told The Independent yesterday: "I gave [the commission] details of
specific investigation files, the specific dates, specific target
information, specific managers in charge of the investigation. I gave them
everything so that they could go back and follow up. This is not hearsay.
These are things that are documented. These things can be established very
easily."

And the piece concludes:

"It is impossible at this stage to verify Mrs Edmonds' claims."

In article , Michael O'Niell
wrote:

RD (The Sandman) wrote:

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

That's when tom clancy published his popular novel "Debt of Honor"
about terrorists flying a fuel-laden jet into the Capitol Building.

It was about *one* disgruntled pilot for a Japanese airline.

Quantity over quality, the American national sport.

Now you know why condoleeza rice and others in the bush gang don't
want to testify to the 9-11 panel. Condi told us after 9-11 that no
one could have imagined such a thing could happen!!!! Sheeiiiit -
millions of americans were aware of this threat.

But they didn't know when or where or how. Makes it a little difficult
to put too many preventative measures in place.

But it makes it easy to stand down normal security measures and allow
your attack fighters to fly at a fraction of their normal speed before
reaching the scene.

The fighters were at normal speed. Until one gets to supercruise
aircraft like the F-22, or special cases like the SR-71 or Concorde,
even fighters can go supersonic for short bursts.

I live about four miles from the Pentagon, and the crash on 9/11 shook
my windows. My guess was that fighters, at full military power but not
in afterburner, were overhead within two minutes. Given where the plane
took off from and the distance to Washington DC, I'm amazed that the
reaction was that fast.

In many respects, if the plane was going to hit a populated building, it
hit at one of the best possible spots -- newly reinforced, not fully
occupied, and many of the occupants having experience and training to
react immediately and appropriately.

Let's say a fighter had caught up with it, and was authorized to fire.
That won't disintegrate the plane. Where is it going to come down? It
very well might have gone into much more densely populated areas.
Traditional air-to-air, or most surface to air, missiles simply don't
have the energy to break a low-flying aircraft into small pieces. A
kinetic energy weapon like CIWS, or a large warhead (e.g., Maverick)
might do better, but once that aircraft is over a city and in terrorist
hands, there are going to be casualties on the ground. The only chance
for avoiding mass casualties would have been just enough luck to have it
come down in a nearby body of water.