Strange But (Un)True?

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 17:40:19 +0000 (UTC), Edward A. Falk wrote:

In article , Tom wrote:
On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:38:35 -0400, Orval Fairbairn wrote:

And yet, Orval Fairbairn asks us to believe that Hanjour pulled off a
stunt that would press the limits of even the most experienced aviation
test pilot.

Given a few days practice in Microsoft Flight Simulator, *anybody*
could do it.

Hanjour not on 77

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/graphics/attack/hijackers.html

On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 00:14:44 -0400, Quaalude wrote:

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 17:40:19 +0000 (UTC), Edward A. Falk wrote:

In article , Tom wrote:
On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:38:35 -0400, Orval Fairbairn wrote:

And yet, Orval Fairbairn asks us to believe that Hanjour pulled off a
stunt that would press the limits of even the most experienced aviation
test pilot.

Given a few days practice in Microsoft Flight Simulator, *anybody*
could do it.

Hanjour not on 77

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/graphics/attack/hijackers.html

*LOL*

So everyone in this thread believes that a "pilot" who wasn't even on
Flight 77 was responsible...oh forget it.

*LOL*

On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 16:08:35 -0400, Orval Fairbairn wrote:

In article , Tom
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 12:47:56 -0400, Orval Fairbairn wrote:

I

Sorry, you've been dismissed as a fraud.

snipped

Any more lies, people? Any more lies you want to project on to me?

No?

In your thirst for Usenet blood, you've shown yourselves as you truly
are. Narrow minded, age dazed little nobodies with compartmentalized
minds and Elitist driven mentalities.

In article , Tom
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 16:08:35 -0400, Orval Fairbairn wrote:

In article , Tom
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 12:47:56 -0400, Orval Fairbairn wrote:

I

Sorry, you've been dismissed as a fraud.

snipped

Any more lies, people? Any more lies you want to project on to me?

No?

In your thirst for Usenet blood, you've shown yourselves as you truly
are. Narrow minded, age dazed little nobodies with compartmentalized
minds and Elitist driven mentalities.

.... and you have shown yourself as a gullible fool and a fraud. You have
invaded rec.aviation.piloting with your kookbabble conspiracy crap and
then pretended to have some "expertise" (which turned out to be
nonexistent.) Then you attacked those who have exposed your fraud --
typical of someone who is clearly off his rocker.

In article
,
150flivver wrote:

On Oct 3, 12:13*pm, Tom wrote:

The reactive force of the hugely powerful downwash sheet, coupled with
the compressibility effects of the tip vortices, simply will not allow
the aircraft to get any lower to the ground than approximately one half
the distance of its wingspan ‹ until speed is drastically reduced,
which, of course, is what happens during normal landings.

Flight 77 "hit the Pentagon" at cruising speed.

So speaketh an aeronautical engineer.

Looks like another alumnus of Coldine University.

N0 -- Boxtop University. I wonder how many "Captain Crunch" boxtops he
had to send in for his fake "degree."

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 12:49:52 -0400, Orval Fairbairn wrote:

Any more lies, people? Any more lies you want to project on to me?

No?

In your thirst for Usenet blood, you've shown yourselves as you truly
are. Narrow minded, age dazed little nobodies with compartmentalized
minds and Elitist driven mentalities.

... and more lies snipped

Sorry, you've been dismissed as a fraud.

In article , Tom
wrote:

On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 18:53:53 -0700 (PDT), 150flivver wrote:

On Oct 3, 12:13Â*pm, Tom wrote:

The reactive force of the hugely powerful downwash sheet, coupled with
the compressibility effects of the tip vortices, simply will not allow
the aircraft to get any lower to the ground than approximately one half
the distance of its wingspan — until speed is drastically reduced,
which, of course, is what happens during normal landings.

Flight 77 "hit the Pentagon" at cruising speed.

So speaketh an aeronautical engineer.

Looks like another alumnus of Coldine University.

Glad you asked.

http://911review.org/brad.com/hijacker_pilots.html

So very sorry you're 100% absolutely incorrect.

The author assumes too much. The conditions of the day were "severe
clear," obviating the need for "sophisticated navigation devices."
Instrument flying skills not needed there.

Bottom line: The whole article is irrelevant, since ground reference was
abundant.

Even if you actually *were* an aeronautical engineer, you would not have
had training in any aircraft or piloting, so your claims would be
irrelevant (and are).

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 12:57:35 -0400, Orval Fairbairn wrote:

In article , Tom
wrote:

On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 18:53:53 -0700 (PDT), 150flivver wrote:

On Oct 3, 12:13Â*pm, Tom wrote:

The reactive force of the hugely powerful downwash sheet, coupled with
the compressibility effects of the tip vortices, simply will not allow
the aircraft to get any lower to the ground than approximately one half
the distance of its wingspan — until speed is drastically reduced,
which, of course, is what happens during normal landings.

Flight 77 "hit the Pentagon" at cruising speed.

So speaketh an aeronautical engineer.

Looks like another alumnus of /Coldine University/.

Glad you asked.

http://911review.org/brad.com/hijacker_pilots.html

So very sorry you're 100% absolutely incorrect.

The author assumes too much. snipped distortions and lies

Assklown, you lied and claimed the author was from "Coldine University".
Assklown, I posted the link that showed, well, that you're a lying
assklown.

Life is tough on assklowns but you knew this already.

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 12:50:51 -0400, Orval Fairbairn wrote:

In article
,
150flivver wrote:

On Oct 3, 12:13*pm, Tom wrote:

The reactive force of the hugely powerful downwash sheet, coupled with
the compressibility effects of the tip vortices, simply will not allow
the aircraft to get any lower to the ground than approximately one half
the distance of its wingspan ‹ until speed is drastically reduced,
which, of course, is what happens during normal landings.

Flight 77 "hit the Pentagon" at cruising speed.

So speaketh an aeronautical engineer.

Looks like another alumnus of Coldine University.

N0 -- Boxtop University. I wonder how many "Captain Crunch" boxtops he
had to send in for his fake "degree."

Gee, I dunno. Maybe I give a **** about being accurate. And maybe I
don't much care about know-nothing blowhards who throw bad advice and
accusations around because they're too emotionally stunted to admit
they're just too damned stupid to know what the **** they're talking
about.

Ever stop to think for a second that sometimes when it seems like
everyone is on your ass there's a reason for it? And that reason is you?

In article , Tom
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 12:49:52 -0400, Orval Fairbairn wrote:

Any more lies, people? Any more lies you want to project on to me?

No?

In your thirst for Usenet blood, you've shown yourselves as you truly
are. Narrow minded, age dazed little nobodies with compartmentalized
minds and Elitist driven mentalities.

... and more lies snipped

Sorry, you've been dismissed as a fraud.

It is you, sir who are the fraud!

BTW: How many "Captain Crunch" boxtops did you have to send in to get
your claimed "aeronautical engineering degree?"