JFK

Newps wrote:


Jay Honeck wrote:



End result: JFK may have had some good traits as a leader -- and I don't
think he wasn't in office long enough to prove that assertion -- but
he was
not an admirable man.


He was in office for nearly three years. If your leadership can't be
proved in that amount of time then you don't have it.


Let's see... in 3 years:
a) Space exploration and start of race to the moon.
b) Civil rights issue.
c) Handling of Cuban Missle crisis.

Leadership???

"Big John" wrote in message
...
40 years ago today I was ferrying a F-89J from the Maine Air Guard at
Bangor, ME to the Oregon Air Guard at Portland OR. Chugging along at
20K, keeping under the big jet stream blowing east, I was about 150
out of Oklahoma City, my next refueling stop, when ATC came up on
frequency and announced that President Kennedy had been shot in Dallas
and was dead.


Were you in a nine day time warp?

Big John wrote:

40 years ago today I was ferrying a F-89J from the Maine Air Guard at
Bangor, ME to the Oregon Air Guard at Portland OR.

I was in High School French class when the intercom came on .....

George Patterson
If you're not part of the solution, you can make a lot of money prolonging
the problem.

Peter Duniho wrote:

By the way,,, think about that famous JFK quote... "Ask not what your
country can do for you, but what you can do for your country"

Um. Wrong three-initial president. Try FDR.

Nope. JFK. I've seen the newsclip at least 20 times in my life.

George Patterson
If you're not part of the solution, you can make a lot of money prolonging
the problem.

"Bob Noel" wrote:
But I would love to discuss this with someone who thinks
that honesty, integrity, and moral are not important
characteristics of the best leaders. I am very interested in
what characteristics they think make the best leaders (which,'
of course, also wouldn't have any bearing on what actually
does make the best leaders...now my head hurts.)

Mine too.
Especially since what you mean by "best" is so debateable. If you mean
"most able to sway the masses" then a great gift of gab makes a great
leader, e.g. Adolph Hitler, Winston Churchill and Ronald Reagan (no, I'm
not saying they are morally equivalent).

My choice for a "best" leader would be Abe Lincoln, who lead his country
through a war and a difficult moral struggle with honesty and dignity --
and he wasn't bad in the gift of gab department, either.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message om...
"Tony Cox" wrote in message .net...

I've harbored a simmering resentment of the Kennedy clan ever
since, and now vote against them and their Democrat friends
whenever I get the chance. Revenge is sweet.

Watch out or we'll send the Daleks after you.


exterminate!! ... exterminate!!


:-)

g_a

Bob Noel wrote:

In most courses/seminars about leadership, surveyed people
consistently believe that honesty, integrity, morality are highly
valued characteristics of the best leaders.

Actually, I don't want politicians who are leaders. Hitler's title was "the
leader". Mussolini's title was "the leader". Whatever happened to the idea that
the president and Congreass are *servants* of the people?

George Patterson
If you're not part of the solution, you can make a lot of money prolonging
the problem.

In article , Big John wrote:
40 years ago today I was ferrying a F-89J from the Maine Air Guard at
Bangor, ME to the Oregon Air Guard at Portland OR. Chugging along at
20K, keeping under the big jet stream blowing east, I was about 150
out of Oklahoma City, my next refueling stop, when ATC came up on
frequency and announced that President Kennedy had been shot in Dallas
and was dead.

Wow, that controller knew he was going to die a full week before November 22?
He must have been psychic. Or maybe he was part of The Conspiracy...

"Cecil E. Chapman" wrote:

I've never understood the reverence for JFK, his infidelity made Clinton
look like a abstinent monk.

Yeah, but he never committed perjury about it, which is what got Clinton
impeached.

George Patterson
If you're not part of the solution, you can make a lot of money prolonging
the problem.

In article , "Ron
Natalie" wrote:

November 22 is Margy's birthday as well. I'm omit the year so as to
not
incriminate
myself.

Incriminate yourself? Cradle robber?

No actually, she's older than I am.

That's pretty close to incriminating yourself...

:-)

--
Bob Noel