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  #41  
Old June 2nd 04, 02:14 AM
Bob Fry
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AES/newspost writes:

[2] "Ill-planned" or "ill-implemented" or "ill-carried-through" efforts
might be a more accurate description).


An "Ill-considered" plan cannot be made good by carrying it out well.
Thus Ill-considered is perfectly accurate, given Shrub's arrogant snub
of the UN inspections and the UN Security Council, his faith-based
attitude towards "intelligence" that supported his views, and so on
and so forth.

More bumper stickers:

Bush: Born on 3rd base, thought he hit a triple.

Clinton lied, nobody died.
  #42  
Old June 2nd 04, 03:22 AM
Pete
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"Bob Fry" wrote

Clinton lied, nobody died.


Does that 'nobody' include:
the 6 dead in the first WTC bombing
the 17 servicemen on the USS Cole
the 11 dead in Nairobi, and those injured in Dar es Salaam
the 19 dead at Khobar Towers

and all the others who have died, been injured, or kidnapped at the hands of
terrorists over the years

Amazing that people actually have such short memories. Decades...centuries,
people. Not just Bush.

Pete


  #43  
Old June 2nd 04, 05:40 AM
Tom Sixkiller
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"Pete" wrote in message
...

"Bob Fry" wrote

Clinton lied, nobody died.


Does that 'nobody' include:
the 6 dead in the first WTC bombing
the 17 servicemen on the USS Cole
the 11 dead in Nairobi, and those injured in Dar es Salaam
the 19 dead at Khobar Towers

and all the others who have died, been injured, or kidnapped at the hands

of
terrorists over the years


Nor does it include the nearly 100 in Waco, nor the ones in Somalia, nor the
3000 that died in 9/11 because Bubba didn't have the balls to do his primary
job for his entire term and considered the Presidency an ego/power trip
rather than a major responsibility. (Did any other US President aspire to
the job from the time he was 14 years old?)

It doesn;t even take into the account those who died fighting forest fires
because of Bubba's nose up the environmentalnut's ass.


Amazing that people actually have such short memories.


Or such convenient memories?

Decades...centuries,
people. Not just Bush.


Actions have consequences, and not only _direct_ consequences. Statists of
the liberal sort can't (won't ?) comprehend that.





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Old June 2nd 04, 12:35 PM
Thomas Borchert
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Jay,

This bizarre post casts a sliver of light on the mind-set that created (and
continues to create) the terrorists


Oh, bull! Your comment is in the line of the worst of the "be with us or be
our enemy" rethoric Bush used after 9/11. Just look at Abu Graib (sp?) to see
where that got you (as a nation, not personally). THAT'S what is creating
terrorists (and I don't mean the people that have committed the war crimes
there, although they could be counted in)!

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

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Old June 2nd 04, 02:49 PM
Ash Wyllie
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Tom Sixkiller opined

"Pete" wrote in message
...

"Bob Fry" wrote

Clinton lied, nobody died.


Does that 'nobody' include:
the 6 dead in the first WTC bombing
the 17 servicemen on the USS Cole
the 11 dead in Nairobi, and those injured in Dar es Salaam
the 19 dead at Khobar Towers

and all the others who have died, been injured, or kidnapped at the hands

of
terrorists over the years


Nor does it include the nearly 100 in Waco, nor the ones in Somalia, nor the
3000 that died in 9/11 because Bubba didn't have the balls to do his primary
job for his entire term and considered the Presidency an ego/power trip
rather than a major responsibility. (Did any other US President aspire to
the job from the time he was 14 years old?)


It doesn;t even take into the account those who died fighting forest fires
because of Bubba's nose up the environmentalnut's ass.


Or those Serbs, and a couple of Chinese diplomats in the Kosovo bombing
campaign.


Amazing that people actually have such short memories.


Or such convenient memories?


Decades...centuries,
people. Not just Bush.


Actions have consequences, and not only _direct_ consequences. Statists of
the liberal sort can't (won't ?) comprehend that.








-ash
Cthulhu for President!
Why vote for a lesser evil?

  #46  
Old June 2nd 04, 03:18 PM
The Enlightenment
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David Reinhart wrote in message ...
And the veterans who landed are going to be excluded from visiting the
invasion beaches because of the security. The politicians should stay
home and let the vets have their day.


Almost half a million won't be here next year.


That sounds fair. The European derived races will be halved in less
than 50 years thanks to their victory.

Unintentional but true. This was a war not worth fighting or even
winning.



Dave Reinhart


Shiver Me Timbers wrote:

HECTOP wrote:


I know this is gonna start a riot, but...


Why would it start a riot.

Sad reflection perhaps, but prudent, logical, common sense
in todays political climate.

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Old June 2nd 04, 03:31 PM
Michael 182
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"The Enlightenment" wrote in message
om...
David Reinhart wrote in message

...
And the veterans who landed are going to be excluded from visiting the
invasion beaches because of the security. The politicians should stay
home and let the vets have their day.


Almost half a million won't be here next year.


That sounds fair. The European derived races will be halved in less
than 50 years thanks to their victory.

Unintentional but true. This was a war not worth fighting or even
winning.


I think I'm going to be sick...

Michael


  #48  
Old June 2nd 04, 04:00 PM
Greg Hennessy
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On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 14:31:07 GMT, "Michael 182"
wrote:


Unintentional but true. This was a war not worth fighting or even
winning.


I think I'm going to be sick...


What did you expect, our friend here is a well known australian neo nazi.



greg

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between capability and self perception"
  #49  
Old June 2nd 04, 04:17 PM
G.R. Patterson III
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Greg Hennessy wrote:

What did you expect, our friend here is a well known australian neo nazi.


1. He's not *my* friend, though he may be yours.
2. He's not well known in rec.aviation.piloting (and let's hope it stays that way).

George Patterson
None of us is as dumb as all of us.
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Old June 2nd 04, 05:50 PM
Gunnar
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Why is it so twisted to demand that everyone should be held accountable for
their actions ? No matter where they are from ?
An illigal war was after all started with (known) false accusations and ca.
10K people has been killed as a result. Bush should be held accountable !



"Jay Honeck" skrev i melding
news:866vc.32406$eY2.23666@attbi_s02...
They should after all be arrested... but in the real world this would

start
WWIII...


What a disturbingly warped view of the world.

This bizarre post casts a sliver of light on the mind-set that created

(and
continues to create) the terrorists -- better than any deliberate
explanation ever could.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"




 




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