Postponed 3 students due to TSA

Clint wrote:
The communism as practiced by Russia until ~1990 and China is very
different from the theoretical concepts originally proposed by Lenin

Actual practice often turns out very different from theoretical
concepts.

etc. Kibbutzez in Israel are far closer to the original communist
proposal, yet have no fascist overtones. Ideal communism is everybody
working together for the good of the community. I think that the Amish
practice a form of communism in the way that they work together. I
don't think that the Amish can be called fascists

It is very funny that the Germans of the 1920's and 30's so feared
communism that they went with the fascism of the Nazis - and how that
changed world history.

Apartheid South Africa had many of the trappings of fascism
(especially if you happened to be non-white) but was totally opposed
to communism. The current government is far more lenient towards
communism - the South African Communist Party is an active part of the
government - yet is not fascist at all. There is no merit in saying
that fascism is a necessary part of communism and vice-versa - they
are very different models.

Noone has claimed the vice-versa afaik.

But OK then, besides smaller groups like kibbutzes or the Amish you
mention (must confess I have no idea what they are), ant colonies
and the like :0), name a country that has had a communist system
for any amount of time without fascist-style repression and
persecution to keep their citizenry in line.

CV

CV wrote in message ...

But OK then, besides smaller groups like kibbutzes or the Amish you
mention (must confess I have no idea what they are), ant colonies
and the like :0),

The Amish are a religious group, pretty much rejecting modern
conveniences, and more or less being what most people would like to
say they are, a community. They are also one of the last places on
earth where you can go and buy furniture that is made tastefully, and
with quality materials, knowing that the hand fit joints aren't going
to loosen up in a year. (And contrary to Tadysch adds, if you want
the good stuff, you'll go to the craftsman himself, not an outlet that
sells mass produced "almost good" furniture.) At the first glance,
they appear to be a gentle people, but many of their ways are hard and
cold, and you won't ever come out on top dealing with them, even
maybe, but they're not fools in their business affairs. What stands
them apart from most places, they really do care about their
communities and their people. Not just lip service like every other
"community."

CV wrote in message ...
Clint wrote:
The communism as practiced by Russia until ~1990 and China is very
different from the theoretical concepts originally proposed by Lenin

Actual practice often turns out very different from theoretical
concepts.

etc. Kibbutzez in Israel are far closer to the original communist
proposal, yet have no fascist overtones. Ideal communism is everybody
working together for the good of the community. I think that the Amish
practice a form of communism in the way that they work together. I
don't think that the Amish can be called fascists

It is very funny that the Germans of the 1920's and 30's so feared
communism that they went with the fascism of the Nazis - and how that
changed world history.

Apartheid South Africa had many of the trappings of fascism
(especially if you happened to be non-white) but was totally opposed
to communism. The current government is far more lenient towards
communism - the South African Communist Party is an active part of the
government - yet is not fascist at all. There is no merit in saying
that fascism is a necessary part of communism and vice-versa - they
are very different models.

Noone has claimed the vice-versa afaik.

But OK then, besides smaller groups like kibbutzes or the Amish you
mention (must confess I have no idea what they are), ant colonies
and the like :0), name a country that has had a communist system
for any amount of time without fascist-style repression and
persecution to keep their citizenry in line.

CV


The Amish are a religious group who live in settlements in 22 states
and Ontario, Canada. The oldest group of Old Order Amish, about
16-18,000 people live in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. The Amish
stress humility, family and community, and separation from the world.

A communist system based on the fear of God - rather than the fear of
military rule :-)

15000 ft cloudbase - 4m/s thermals. Got to love Africa.

Clinton Birch
Lak 12

(Burt Compton) wrote
Scenario # 1: I've got 2 guys (with FAA SEL Pilot Certificates) who planned to
come to Marfa, Texas for glider training next week. Neither has a US Passport
nor can they obtain a Certified Copy of their Birth Certificate because they
are told you need to go to your home town or county to obtain it in person from
the Clerk's office.

Who said anything about a certified copy? They have the original,
don't they? You saw it, right? Just nod your head yes, and enter the
endorsement in the instructor's logbook and the student's. Now go
fly.

No, there is no longer a requirement to keep a copy. An exemption has
been issued.

Scenario # 2: Third student is a local 13 year old youngster. Hopes to solo
on 14th birthday over the Christmas Holidays. Has no previous glider training
except great RC model flyer. Been reading books and watching soaring videos.
No Passport. Mom working on getting an original certified copy of his birth
certificate from out of state.

Again - he or his parents have the original, right? Same process.

I guess we will have to advise our students well in advance of coming to fly
with us to get their documents in order.

That depends - do you trust them or don't you?

Michael

Two thoughts about all of this:

Support AOPA, EAA, and SSA as they do their best to jointly guide TSA =
back to sanity. They may need your help at some point, $ and Letter =
writing to appointed and elected officials.

Burt's operation is in a hotbed of Border Patrol activity, a large =
headquarters, a training facility on the airport he operates from, =
nearby checkpoints, and heavy patrolling. While visiting last year, I =
left my car parked and running, the drivers door open, and parked right =
at the door to my room while carrying items in. In the time it took me =
to make one trip, I returned to find a friendly Border Patrol officer, =
with hand on 9mm Glock waiting to find out who I was and to inform me =
that there was no shortage of pedestrians in the area, more than willing =
to borrow my SUV. If these folks were to stumble into an aircraft =
related incident, it would not be long until TSA and the FAA were =
involved. Attention Burt really does not need.

Secondly, on November 2nd, US voters need to keep in mind which =
candidate they may vote for that could deliver more TSAs to delve into =
our lives at our expense - AND PULL THE OTHER LEVER! You know who I am =
referring to!