The cost of war

OH GEESH!
I don't see a connection on healthcare and a war "that is killing my
children". I sure would like to see something done about healthcare, how to
fix it is a task and a half to say the least. Mostly because some blame the
gov., others blame the doctors and some like myself blame the insurance
companies. Maybe the answer is to have the gov provide a cheap insurance for
people that can not get insurance from employers? Of course I think a
reasonable premium should be charged in the hopes to offset costs, but like
the man said the gov could lose money selling beer! HAHA I got a laugh out
of that.
As for the war, would you rather a rag head kill your children here? For
years they have gotten bolder and bolder with their attacks. I remember when
I was a Marine and my brothers were killed in the attack in Beruit...seems
the senators could not get their heads out their butts then about the UN.
And sure couldn't about us defending ourselves. And of course they all
thought it would never happen in the US. Well it did! I know there are those
who feel the Iraq thing is just totally wrong. But the fact is, it will not
stop unless we go into all of those "snakey" places and as Barney Fife would
say " Nip it in the Bud". People do not like to admit it but this is a jihad
against a crusade. Be all lovey dovey and nice to everyone if you want but
if you want this nation to have that attitude towards these people ( if you
wish to call them that..I prefer DOGS!") then your children will be blown up
in their schools right here in this country just like a bunch of Russian
children were the other week. You may not agree with me, and I respect that
...but I have been there and I have seen it first hand. My children are safer
because the killing is going on over there and yours are too. In another
year when my boy is a Marine then he will help protect your children too.
It's out of control Islamic idiots that will harm your children and yourself
, not the government.
As far as trusting the government, well i don't think the founding
fathers ever meant for any of us to "trust" them. Keep them in check! I beg
everyone to do that, but be open minded enough and non- partisan enough to
see truths instead of political spin from either side. it's all the partisan
spin that has to be waded through to get to the truth and when everyone is
"spinning" that's when they can't be trusted. Right now it's coming from one
side just as bad as the other. To bad both parties are worried about
partisan propaganda more than protecting this nation.
I hope you will say a prayer for those Marines and other service men and
women throughout the world whose job it is to make sure your children are
safe, and to make sure you have the right to speak out against anything you
wish . It's sad , and it breaks my heart, but miliary people die to protect
our rights and country. I fear this will all get worse before it gets
better. Iraq has been easy compared what it yet to come...rest assured it is
coming. Iran , Syria and North Korea...oh my!

Semper Fi !
W.P. Dixon


"Sandy" wrote in message
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"Barnyard BOb -" wrote in message
...
On 27 Sep 2004 14:10:52 GMT, osite (RobertR237)
wrote:

The bigger issue might be when the government runs the healthcare
industry,
they must also set the salaries of those in the industry. Just how
many
of our
brightest and most capable future physicians would opt to the medical
field if
they know that they will be forced to work for whatever the burro-craps
decide
they should earn?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Whatz gnu?
The HMO's are in effect setting salaries now...
and the effects are observable as we speak.

If govt takes over, I'd guess salaries and costs
would rise while quality of care heads south.

Where do I get such an opinion?
If the govt were in the beer brewing business...
a six pack would cost $25 and Uncle Sam
would still be losing money. g

You guys wouldn't trust the government with your health care but you'd
trust
them with prosecuting and running a war that's killing your children?

"Rich S." wrote in message

Mebbe we should privatize national defense? Call 1-800-Rent-An-Army !!!

Rich "Be the best you can be - Wackenhut" S.

I think that is already happening.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

Be all lovey dovey and nice to everyone if you want but
if you want this nation to have that attitude towards these people ( if you
wish to call them that..I prefer DOGS!")

That's an insult to dogs!

The bigger issue might be when the government runs the healthcare industry,
they must also set the salaries of those in the industry. Just how many of
our
brightest and most capable future physicians would opt to the medical field
if
they know that they will be forced to work for whatever the burro-craps
decide
they should earn?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Whatz gnu?
The HMO's are in effect setting salaries now...
and the effects are observable as we speak.


They have been for the last 20 years but it is getting worse. Most doctors are
forced to either join an HMO or a managed care program which will set their
compensation rates. Their choice is to join or be placed outside the system
and have their patients forced to either change doctors or pay substantial
sums.

If govt takes over, I'd guess salaries and costs
would rise while quality of care heads south.

Where do I get such an opinion?

I would say that you get such an opinion from far too many years of seeing just
that occur, over and over again.

If the govt were in the beer brewing business...
a six pack would cost $25 and Uncle Sam
would still be losing money. g


Barnyard BOb --

Yep, and we would have the hangover without having had the fun.



Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

Sandy gurgled:

Whatz gnu?
The HMO's are in effect setting salaries now...
and the effects are observable as we speak.

If govt takes over, I'd guess salaries and costs
would rise while quality of care heads south.

Where do I get such an opinion?
If the govt were in the beer brewing business...
a six pack would cost $25 and Uncle Sam
would still be losing money. g

You guys wouldn't trust the government with your health care but you'd trust
them with prosecuting and running a war that's killing your children?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Huh?
Dunno what yer smokin', Sandy, but....
don't drive, fly or operate machinery for the next 8 hours.

I was commenting on HEALTHCARE salaries/issues.
Just HEALTHCARE.

Further....
You know nothing about my position on war and trust,
so please do not assume where I stand or that you can
speak for me in any capacity.


Barnyard BOb --

Whatz gnu?
The HMO's are in effect setting salaries now...
and the effects are observable as we speak.

If govt takes over, I'd guess salaries and costs
would rise while quality of care heads south.

Where do I get such an opinion?
If the govt were in the beer brewing business...
a six pack would cost $25 and Uncle Sam
would still be losing money. g

You guys wouldn't trust the government with your health care but you'd trust
them with prosecuting and running a war that's killing your children?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Huh?
Dunno what yer smokin', Sandy, but....
don't drive, fly or operate machinery for the next 8 hours.

I was commenting on HEALTHCARE salaries/issues.
Just HEALTHCARE.

Further....
You know nothing about my position on war and trust,
so please do not assume where I stand or that you can
speak for me in any capacity.


Barnyard BOb --


Don't you just love how people will draw an assumed conclusion from a totally
unrelated set of statements.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

You guys wouldn't trust the government with your health care but you'd trust
them with prosecuting and running a war that's killing your children?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Huh?
Dunno what yer smokin', Sandy, but....
don't drive, fly or operate machinery for the next 8 hours.

I was commenting on HEALTHCARE salaries/issues.
Just HEALTHCARE.

Further....
You know nothing about my position on war and trust,
so please do not assume where I stand or that you can
speak for me in any capacity.


Barnyard BOb --


Don't you just love how people will draw an assumed conclusion from a totally
unrelated set of statements.


Bob Reed
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I wouldn't say I love it, Bob.....
but, after years on this group I've
learned to expect the unexpected.

[Never mind that I would never admit to being
more than a bit strange on occasion myself.] g


Barnyard BOb --

Barnyard BOb - wrote:
On 27 Sep 2004 14:10:52 GMT, osite (RobertR237)
wrote:


The bigger issue might be when the government runs the healthcare industry,
they must also set the salaries of those in the industry. Just how many of our
brightest and most capable future physicians would opt to the medical field if
they know that they will be forced to work for whatever the burro-craps decide
they should earn?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Whatz gnu?
The HMO's are in effect setting salaries now...
and the effects are observable as we speak.

If govt takes over, I'd guess salaries and costs
would rise while quality of care heads south.

Where do I get such an opinion?
If the govt were in the beer brewing business...
a six pack would cost $25 and Uncle Sam
would still be losing money. g


Barnyard BOb --

Once a rabble rousing mal-content, always a rabble rousing mal-content
huh Bob?

Dick Steel

Barnyard BOb - wrote:
On 27 Sep 2004 14:10:52 GMT, osite (RobertR237)
wrote:


The bigger issue might be when the government runs the healthcare industry,
they must also set the salaries of those in the industry. Just how many of
our
brightest and most capable future physicians would opt to the medical field
if
they know that they will be forced to work for whatever the burro-craps
decide
they should earn?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Whatz gnu?
The HMO's are in effect setting salaries now...
and the effects are observable as we speak.

If govt takes over, I'd guess salaries and costs
would rise while quality of care heads south.

Where do I get such an opinion?
If the govt were in the beer brewing business...
a six pack would cost $25 and Uncle Sam
would still be losing money. g


Barnyard BOb --

Once a rabble rousing mal-content, always a rabble rousing mal-content
huh Bob?

Dick Steel


No Dick, he just has a brain that is working quite well. Name one, just one
thing that the government controls that is not totally ****ed up and cost 10
times what it should. Anyone who thinks that the government could run the
healthcare industry better or cheaper than the current private system doesn't
have a clue. Most of our current run-up in healthcare costs can be directly
traced to and attributed to the government and the stupidity of the medicare
system.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

RobertR237 wrote:
Barnyard BOb - wrote:

On 27 Sep 2004 14:10:52 GMT, osite (RobertR237)
wrote:



The bigger issue might be when the government runs the healthcare industry,
they must also set the salaries of those in the industry. Just how many of

our

brightest and most capable future physicians would opt to the medical field

if

they know that they will be forced to work for whatever the burro-craps

decide

they should earn?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Whatz gnu?
The HMO's are in effect setting salaries now...
and the effects are observable as we speak.

If govt takes over, I'd guess salaries and costs
would rise while quality of care heads south.

Where do I get such an opinion?
If the govt were in the beer brewing business...
a six pack would cost $25 and Uncle Sam
would still be losing money. g


Barnyard BOb --

Once a rabble rousing mal-content, always a rabble rousing mal-content
huh Bob?

Dick Steel



No Dick, he just has a brain that is working quite well. Name one, just one
thing that the government controls that is not totally ****ed up and cost 10
times what it should. Anyone who thinks that the government could run the
healthcare industry better or cheaper than the current private system doesn't
have a clue. Most of our current run-up in healthcare costs can be directly
traced to and attributed to the government and the stupidity of the medicare
system.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

Yeah,some things never change.Same old KIS Cruiser in progress I see.

Dick