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  #41  
Old April 28th 05, 02:21 PM
Nathan Young
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:39:57 GMT, George Patterson
wrote:

Dave Butler wrote:

NorthNet http://www.ntd.net/internet.htm claims to offer DSL.


In nearly all of the U.S., the internet providers are running on lines that
they've taken over from the local Bell company. The lines are still provisioned
by the local baby Bell. If the local Bell says that they can't give you DSL at
your location, nobody else can either. That doesn't stop the internet service
companies from claiming they can. I think the baby Bell in that area is Ameritec?

Here, Earthlink was claiming that they could provide me DSL for two years before
my line could actually support it. Verizon had to condition the line for DSL
before anyone could provide service on it.


My previous home was in a new subdivision in a growing area of my
community. We were one of the first homes in the subdivision. We
were approx 16k feet from the CO, with a clean line (no DLCs,
repeaters, etc.). At the time (~4-5 years ago) Ameritech was the
phone carrier, and they did not provide DSL. I was able to get a CLEC
to provide DSL services.

As the subdivision built and more phone and data services were
provisioned on the bundles accompanying my phone line - the DSL
service got worse and worse. Eventually, it got to a point where I
could 'sense' network loading based upon whether the DSL modem would
sync and provide service.

It worked fine during low times of usage - the mid of the day, and
the mid of the night. However, during peak usage hours of 7am-9am,
and 4pm-10pm it would never work.

An interesting problem, which I solved by moving.

-Nathan

  #42  
Old April 28th 05, 02:24 PM
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In a previous article, "Juan Jimenez" said:
But to where? What part of Wittman Field? WiFi will get you about a 300 ft
radius, maybe a bit more if you get fancy with the antennas. You then have
to deploy an infrastructure to which you can connect the access points. It
takes money, and all for 1 week's worth? Maybe 2 if you count exhibitors,
volunteers, etc.


The Linksys WRT54G wireless access point/router supports (at least it does
if you get the Sveasoft firmware, and believe me, you don't want it
without it) a mode where each WAP can relay traffic for all the other WAPs
in its range, so you can chain a bunch of them together wirelessly with
only one connected to the cable/dsl/fat pipe. You can also turn up the
power on them and increase the range.


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the word." "Man in the bird, this is the man in the tower, you sound funny,
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  #43  
Old April 28th 05, 02:47 PM
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"Blanche Cohen" wrote in message
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And just how much do you think Airventure grosses that week?


Just pointing out that Airventure charges to get in is not a justification
for spending money on a WiFi infrastructure to be used just 2 weeks out of
the year.



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Old April 28th 05, 02:48 PM
Dave Butler
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George Patterson wrote:

In nearly all of the U.S., the internet providers are running on lines
that they've taken over from the local Bell company. The lines are still
provisioned by the local baby Bell. If the local Bell says that they
can't give you DSL at your location, nobody else can either. That
doesn't stop the internet service companies from claiming they can.


Exactly. That's why I mentioned in one of my earlier postings that DSL providers
are notorious liars.
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Old April 28th 05, 02:58 PM
Dave Butler
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Juan Jimenez wrote:
But to where? What part of Wittman Field?


Pick a spot. It doesn't have to cover the whole field.

WiFi will get you about a 300 ft
radius, maybe a bit more if you get fancy with the antennas. You then have
to deploy an infrastructure to which you can connect the access points. It
takes money, and all for 1 week's worth? Maybe 2 if you count exhibitors,
volunteers, etc.


I don't think the infrastructure is *so* expensive just to provide a hot spot,
if you don't try to cover the whole airfield. The local coffehouse can afford it.
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Old April 28th 05, 03:05 PM
Dave Butler
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Montblack wrote:
("Dave Butler" wrote)

I wonder whether anyone has contacted EAA and requested that they get on
the stick and provide WiFi on the North 40.




Found an open hot-spot last year, next to the N-40 showers (by the homes)
one night at around 9:30pm. Stylus and a handheld something - don't
remember
the brand the guy had.


Heh, that might have been me. :-) I found that spot by the homes next to the N40
showers with my Tungsten|C.

Dave
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Old April 28th 05, 03:39 PM
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"Nathan Young" wrote in message
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An interesting problem, which I solved by moving.


And when the ashtrays full you buy a new car, right? :!~)



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Old April 28th 05, 03:39 PM
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"Dave Butler" wrote in message
news:1114695955.672961@sj-nntpcache-5...

Exactly. That's why I mentioned in one of my earlier postings that DSL

providers
are notorious liars.


So are the dial-up providers.
--
Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO



  #49  
Old April 28th 05, 03:41 PM
Jay Honeck
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The Linksys WRT54G wireless access point/router supports (at least it does
if you get the Sveasoft firmware, and believe me, you don't want it
without it) a mode where each WAP can relay traffic for all the other WAPs
in its range, so you can chain a bunch of them together wirelessly with
only one connected to the cable/dsl/fat pipe. You can also turn up the
power on them and increase the range.


Ha. We tried the "repeater" method at the hotel, in an effort to adequately
cover two 3-story buildings.

It turned out to be incredibly unstable. All it would take was a 2 second
power outage, and the repeater "lost its mind" and would not recover -- a
completely untenable solution in a commercial application. Other times it
would lose its connection for no apparent reason at all, and have to be
"rebooted" from scratch -- a time consuming, aggravating affair.

Our solution was a separate DSL line and network in both buildings. A bit
more expensive, but rock-solid.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old April 28th 05, 03:43 PM
Jay Honeck
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I don't think the infrastructure is *so* expensive just to provide a hot
spot, if you don't try to cover the whole airfield. The local coffehouse
can afford it.


It's not. We covered our entire hotel -- two 3-story buildings, plus the
pool area -- for a grand investment of maybe $225. (Not counting the
monthly DSL line charges, of course.)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
"Dave Butler" wrote in message
news:1114696520.125471@sj-nntpcache-5...
Juan Jimenez wrote:
But to where? What part of Wittman Field?


Pick a spot. It doesn't have to cover the whole field.

WiFi will get you about a 300 ft radius, maybe a bit more if you get
fancy with the antennas. You then have to deploy an infrastructure to
which you can connect the access points. It takes money, and all for 1
week's worth? Maybe 2 if you count exhibitors, volunteers, etc.




 




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